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Old 05-26-2017, 09:53 PM   #1
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Anyone using a 2017 Raptor as a tow vehicle?

I love the new Ford 2017 Raptor with the 450 HP 550 lb-ft torque HO v6 ecoboost engine.

Supposedly this vehicle is rated to tow 8000 lbs with a weight distribution hitch and maximum of 800 lbs of tongue weight.

I have a 2015 International Serenity 27FB with a pro pride 3 hitch.

I think it is within specs to use a Raptor as the tow vehicle but obviously I am worried about being that close to maximum considering that the 27FB is rated to 7600 lbs GVWR and has a hitch weight of 791 lbs.

Has anyone here tried using the new Ford Raptor for towing yet? I would be interested to hear your results. Specifically, I am wondering if the frame, brakes, and towing abilities are fully capable to handle a 27FB without having a death grip on your steering wheel.

I saw a towing video demonstration on youtube where they were testing the Raptor performance towing 7000 lbs. and they appeared to be pleasantly surprised. But I would rather hear from someone with first hand knowledge.
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I used to have a 2014 Raptor. The problem with the Raptor is payload. In 2014 it was 1200 pounds. The problem is the soft off road suspension. I traded it for an Escalade with almost 1600 lbs payload.
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Old 05-27-2017, 03:34 PM   #3
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My 27FB tongue weighs, per sureline scale, 950 lbs.
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My 27FB tongue weighs, per sureline scale, 950 lbs.
Add a driver and passenger and you'll likely exceed payload. Never mind luggage or other passengers. I've seen some folks modify their Raptors with air bags to prevent it from bottoming out, but I decided I didn't want to push my luck.
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IMHO The off road suspension will ineffective at damping road imperfections quickly enough; allowing for too much porpoising and suspension travel. Also adding weight to the back of a sofly sprung Raptor would change the ride dynamic considerably at either end of the truck. I don't know if there would be enought adjustment in a weight distribution hitch to balance that out. It's the same problem that people face with Toyota Landcruisers, but the Toyota's and Jeeps arn't as softly sprung as a Raptor.

You want your tow vehicle to absorb potholes, ridges and undulations with the least amount of hitch movement possible but still have a decent ride.

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Anyone using a 2017 Raptor as a tow vehicle?

Well said above.

A vehicle compromised in favor of service on unpaved roads is just that: Compromised.

Wrong tires, wrong suspension tuning, wrong vehicle height.

In other words, an already bad design (any truck) is now worsened.

A pickup is the vehicle most likely to itself be the cause of a loss of control accident. It's less stable than these trailers. It is the weak link.

A pickup modified not for roadworthiness, but for off-road will be that much worse. 4WD already makes poor poorer.

Good highways and fair weather deceive many into believing a pickup a good tow vehicle.
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After reading these comments just remember a lot of this info is opinion, some with an agenda.
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It's not perfect.

But assuming you are getting a Raptor to pull your Airstream reasonable distances so you can spend some time exploring the back country with your truck, the first priority is the truck that can also comfortably tow your Airstream. Concern yourself less with GVWR/payload and more with axle ratings and weight distribution for safest towing. You already have a ProPride hitch on there, it's not going to be a death grip going down the road. It's accident avoidance and loss of control where pickups fail.

If you were getting a Raptor to tour America's highways day after day, there are better choices.

Low center of gravity for stability, full independent suspension for wider suspension-to-frame connection and less body roll, short rear overhang relative to wheelbase for sway mitigation, no frame flex or twist; a few design elements to start with for a good towing platform. Pickups in general don't do well, some Raptor off-road features take it farther away from the ideal.

So it's not always about the ideal, sometimes it's about how you will use it.
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Buy the Raptor with the 3.5L V6 Ecoboost + Max Tow Package and you'll be gold.
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Just add a set of Firestone air bags and don't worry about soft rear suspension.
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Buy the Raptor with the 3.5L V6 Ecoboost + Max Tow Package and you'll be gold.


They don't make a Raptor like that.
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I just don't get it....towing on the edge or even over the edge makes absolutly no sense to me. I have knowledge of people who push the limits and have a wreck only to find their insurance company won't cover it because of the running at or iver limits. Do yourself and all the other drivers on the road a favor...get a proper tow vehicle. Lives matter.
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Just add a set of Firestone air bags and don't worry about soft rear suspension.
Air bags can be useful for leveling the vehicle when hauling heavy loads with no trailer attached, but they do nothing for weight distribution. That is the task of a capable, properly set up weight distribution hitch when towing a heavy trailer.

I think many people think a bigger truck is needed when they have stability problems with the one they are using. The bigger truck with diesel engine sets the steering axle firmly on the ground. They could have done the same thing with a good weight distribution hitch setup, and enjoyed the vehicle they already have. Safely. The Airstream will just follow rather than try to control the combination.

In other words, what you have may well be a proper tow vehicle.
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Air bags can be useful for leveling the vehicle when hauling heavy loads with no trailer attached, but they do nothing for weight distribution. That is the task of a capable, properly set up weight distribution hitch when towing a heavy trailer.

I think many people think a bigger truck is needed when they have stability problems with the one they are using. The bigger truck with diesel engine sets the steering axle firmly on the ground. They could have done the same thing with a good weight distribution hitch setup, and enjoyed the vehicle they already have. Safely. The Airstream will just follow rather than try to control the combination.

In other words, what you have may well be a proper tow vehicle.
He already has a pro pride distribution hitch. No airbags won't help with weight distribution, no one said it would. Yes airbags will stiffen the ride of a vehicle whether it is towing or not. Air bags will stop the porpoising that soft off road suspension is known for while towing. Know this for fact as I have two trucks running firestone bags.
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