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07-08-2016, 02:30 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 25' International
Sioux Falls
, South Dakota
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Anybody have experience with Ford's New "Pro Trailer Backup Assist"?
Anybody have experience with Ford's New "Pro Trailer Backup Assist"?
I known it started with the 2016 F150. Now, I think it's also available on their new 2017 SuperDuty Rigs.
Like to know if its true that it "improves driver confidence by letting the driver steer the trailer instinctively as they control the accelerator and brakes, while the truck takes care of the rest."??
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07-08-2016, 02:50 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Seattle
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LOL I don't know but it sounds like a baaaaaaaad accident waiting to happen!
If you can't back up a trailer you shouldn't own one.
I'll wait for the YouTube videos of trailers slamming into picnic tables and trees...
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07-08-2016, 03:17 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1991 25' Excella
Stanfield
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It's nothing more than a gimmick enabling you to back up a trailer with no knowledge on what your doing. Dont waste your money!
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07-08-2016, 05:20 AM
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Rivet Master
Tavares
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Sounds cool.
How does it work?
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07-08-2016, 05:40 AM
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Rivet Master
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Mantua
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Yea, self driving cars are the thing. Ask that Tesla driver in Florida.
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07-08-2016, 07:03 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2001 34' Limited
Tucson
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Ugh!!! Is this a real thing? Some of the new tech in modern day vehicles is just beyond my comprehension.....
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2001 Airstream '34 Limited
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Fulltime in 2013 and LOVING it !!
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07-08-2016, 07:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
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Yes it is a real thing. Google is your friend.
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07-08-2016, 08:50 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 25' International
Sioux Falls
, South Dakota
Join Date: Jun 2016
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Here's the Video Link for Ford's New "Pro Trailer Backup Assist".
http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/gall.../FMFT1212000H/
It looks cool, however, I think an Airstream trailer height would block the truck's backup camera's view.
Maybe it can be combined with the new Airstream WiFi backup camera/video screen to augment the driver's view.
Has anyone had Experience with this new Ford system?
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07-08-2016, 09:02 AM
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Lost in America
2015 27' FB International
2006 25' Safari FB SE
2004 19' International CCD
Santa Fe
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Just saw an article about eliminating side view mirrors on cars with the advent of all these 360° cameras. But with cars driving themselves, we'll have plenty of time to watch the dashboard video screen!
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07-08-2016, 09:08 AM
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Rivet Master
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That's what killed the Tesla driver, watching a video as the reports say.
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07-08-2016, 09:25 AM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaytonaDan
http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/gall.../FMFT1212000H/
It looks cool, however, I think an Airstream trailer height would block the truck's backup camera's view.
Maybe it can be combined with the new Airstream WiFi backup camera/video screen to augment the driver's view.
Has anyone had Experience with this new Ford system?
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The Ford trailer backup assist uses the truck's rear camera to monitor the angle of the trailer with respect to the truck. The driver is expected to use the truck's side mirrors and/or a spotter to monitor what's behind and around the trailer itself.
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07-08-2016, 09:44 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 25' International
Joliet
, Illinois
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rarestream
lol i don't know but it sounds like a baaaaaaaad accident waiting to happen!
If you can't back up a trailer you shouldn't own one.
I'll wait for the youtube videos of trailers slamming into picnic tables and trees...
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x 2!!!
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07-08-2016, 01:04 PM
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Rivet Master
Tavares
, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Llando88
Sounds cool.
How does it work?
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It seems:
A knob controls truck steering box. The feedback loop is the driver is supposed to turn the knob in the direction the trailer is supposed to go.
Right.
1) I turn the bottom of the wheel in the direction I want the trailer to go.
2) My wife tells my which direction via our Motorola Walkie-Talkies.
3) I'm ultimately responsible for ending up in the RV spot and straight enough to drop the hitch.
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07-08-2016, 01:08 PM
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2 Rivet Member
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Seattle
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It works fine/as advertised.
You still need to know what's behind you - won't protect you from stupid.
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07-08-2016, 01:14 PM
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Vaquitaboss
2011 23' FB Flying Cloud
Lithia
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2015
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I just purchased a 'demo' F150 King Ranch, and that feature was on it. I really enjoy backing trailers the old fashioned way as it sometimes is a challenge to get the trailer where I want it. But....
I did take the time to calibrate the system, and on my FC 23 FB, I had to create an aluminum addition to the tongue to apply the included sticker to. Once calibrated, the function was pretty cool to use. I don't think I would pay for that feature, but it IMO, it is not just a gimmick.
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07-08-2016, 02:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Boulder City
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Maybe a useful Gimmick with practice
Just over 200 miles on my 2106 F350 King Ranch, I noticed the feature when adjusting my Equalizer Hitch to align with my trailer with a different tow vehicle.
The rear view camera is clear and the 'feature' has a center alignment of the ball as you back up towards the trailer's hitch on the screen. The center line does help to center the connection.
As I get within two or three feet, I depend on my wife to finish with our usual driver watching hand signals. Small movements of the steering wheel affect the center alignment line on the screen, as you back up. It was accurate and would be a valuable tool for a solo driver.
With more experience the feature may assist me as intended... a solo connecting tow vehicle to trailer. After years of my wife and I as a team effort, it may be quicker to get close and make a perfect NASA maneuver to 'dock'.
I will know more as we travel. A solo driver would have to make sure that the trailer is high enough to clear the ball when backing up.
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07-08-2016, 05:01 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 19' Safari SE
Marina
, California
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I have it on my 2016 F150 and it does not work with my Hensley Cub.
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07-08-2016, 05:25 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Sherwood
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Eklund
Just over 200 miles on my 2106 F350 King Ranch, I noticed the feature when adjusting my Equalizer Hitch to align with my trailer with a different tow vehicle.
The rear view camera is clear and the 'feature' has a center alignment of the ball as you back up towards the trailer's hitch on the screen. The center line does help to center the connection.
As I get within two or three feet, I depend on my wife to finish with our usual driver watching hand signals. Small movements of the steering wheel affect the center alignment line on the screen, as you back up. It was accurate and would be a valuable tool for a solo driver.
With more experience the feature may assist me as intended... a solo connecting tow vehicle to trailer. After years of my wife and I as a team effort, it may be quicker to get close and make a perfect NASA maneuver to 'dock'.
I will know more as we travel. A solo driver would have to make sure that the trailer is high enough to clear the ball when backing up.
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Ray, I have a 2016, not as new as your 2106 (-; but it has the same trailer hookup aid and I use it solo, after a few times of using it I can now have the ball under the receiver the first time. The hardest part is when you get close it can be difficult to have the depth perception to see that the ball is actually under the receiver, not too far back. If you push the "+" sign in the upper left corner of the screen it magnifies the view so you can more accurately get the ball in the right place.
Steve
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07-09-2016, 12:07 AM
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Silver Star
1970 23' Safari
Victoria
, British Columbia
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 352
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i use the backup camera on the Tundra to connect to the trailer now all the time ... i can usually get it on one go and love it! ....never liked having to have someone back me onto the hitch and this eliminates it totally ....it takes some getting use to but once your over the learning curve your set..... this is not a back up the trailer system though.
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07-11-2016, 06:33 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 26' Flying Cloud
Punta Gorda, Florida
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2016
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F150 back up assist
What an appropriate time for this question. I have a F150 with this option. This weekend I attempted to set up the system for my FC 26u. I read the instructions twice. (that's 2 times more than I usually read instructions) Took the measurements twice. When I entered the last number (the distance between the tailgate and the center of both axles) the computer said I was outside the allowable distance, so it would not accept my entry. I took photos of the sticker placement,so, today its off to the Ford dealer. My next entry will detail Ford's response.
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