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Old 09-15-2016, 12:25 PM   #15
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My Grand Cherokee will tow the 19 just fine, but the dealer put on the WD and sway control and I use them every time. Makes a big difference on "humped" intersections and railroad crossings. The GC will level itself but I'd rather not put extra strain on the air suspension.

I'd use a WD on any light pickup especially newer ones.

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Old 09-15-2016, 01:03 PM   #16
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We have had our 16' ft Bambi for about 4 months and like you had ? along the same line. Like many have said it can't hurt so I took the plunge and added the sway and weight hitch. Best thing I did. It may be over kill since my tow vehicle is an 04 Landcruiser but an ounce of prevention saves a pound of cure or something like that? Anything that would help in an emergency situation I am in for. BTW we love our trailer and enjoy watching the scenery and not worrying about my trailer. Hope you have many safe travels.

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Old 09-15-2016, 01:06 PM   #17
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Tundra towing

I tow with a 2013 Tundra with the tow package, the 4.6L engine and have towed my 28' Argosy and assorted utility trailers both with and without bars and sway control. The Tundra has "automatic" sway control which uses the truck rear brakes to counter sway but have not been impressed with it and do not rely on it. Another thought with regard to sway control. If you are in an accident and do not have sway control or equalizer bars, that could be used in court in an effort to try to find you at fault. Even if it tows great, I would at the least put a friction sway control on.

I tow a 6400# gross wt. trailer with a 550# tongue weight and carry about 400# in the bed. I have both 750# and 1000# bars and with the 1000# my front height is the same as empty and the rear is only down about 1". I suspect your tongue weight is similar or possibly even heaver. I went to 2 friction sway controls because one was not enough when I bought my last set of tires (Michelin Defender LTX).

The bars lower the nose of the truck so my steering is not light and the sway controls stiffen side to side movement and make a noticeable difference in a straight line.
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Old 09-15-2016, 01:15 PM   #18
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The 19 Bambi hitch weight is approx 500 lbs, so says my sherline gauge. That's enough to significantly drop the back and raise the front. On a 1/2 ton, like my Chevy.

For safety's sake, you must use weight distribution to raise the back (lower the front). That restores safe steering. I use 600 lb bars, as per Airstream Andy. Tows like a dream.

As to sway control, I've never installed any. I've never felt the need for it. A larger trailer would need sway control, I suppose, like the Reese dual cam.

Just my own experience and observation.

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Old 09-15-2016, 01:20 PM   #19
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We also have a 19 ft FC and tow with a tundra like yours,5.7
Our Airsteam dealer installs equalizer hitches on all their trailers out the door
We love our hitch and there is never any sway or problems,,I highly recommend it
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Old 09-15-2016, 01:25 PM   #20
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Only one problem if you get the equalizer hitch
It works so well for new first time trailer haulers , you will want to trade up to a 23 ft within a Month or two of owning the Bambi,,they really do pull like a dream

Congratulations on the new trailer
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:10 PM   #21
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Opinions on all sides, which gives you the opportunity to pick the one that tracks with your own inclinations. With no towing experience at all, do what makes you feel safe. We had lots of prior experience, and though our 19" Bambi came with some kind of hitch set-up (honestly, I don't know if it is WD or sway, no instructions, and no mfg name), we have never used it. I'd estimate about 15,000+ miles over 4 years, all at 65 mph or less. and no problems or scary moments using an '08 Expedition Limited with the towing package. Welcome aboard....hit the road and enjoy the streamin' life.
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:13 PM   #22
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I had a Reese WD with anti-sway. Each time I would need to back up and make a turn, I had to remember to remove the anti-sway bar or I would bend it. Needless to say I bent it a couple of times. Went with a Blue Ox and never looked back (LOL)! I'm towing my '66 (3,100 lbs) with my 2015 Nissan Frontier. For short trips, I can tow without the WD, unless I put stuff in my bed then I need the WD.
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Old 09-15-2016, 04:41 PM   #23
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anti-sway hitch

I tow a 19 foot Globetrotter with a Toyota 4 Runner.
I use an anti-sway hitch that transmits some of the tongue weight to the front wheels leveling the car and trailer. It works perfectly.

My experience with The Toyota technical people is that they will only repeat information in the owners book. They do not risk any other information or suggestions.
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Old 09-15-2016, 06:46 PM   #24
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I tow a 25" with a Ford Sport Trac Adrenalin. I use this
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Old 09-16-2016, 04:44 AM   #25
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If your trailer is set up properly with WD hitch, then loosening the bars to see how it handles completely throws off the set up. This is not a way to see how it handles witjout WD. To see how it handles without WD one must set up the trailer and hitch for this, not just disconnect the WD bars on a previously set up system. Towing with a proper ball mount with sway devices attached when properly set up will tell you how your truck handles witjout WD.
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Old 09-16-2016, 05:32 AM   #26
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Anti-Sway Bar or WD with Anti-Sway for 19' FC?

I'm on the "you need both WD and SC" team. Trust me you'll end up with more than 500 lb of hitch weight alone hanging off the end of your truck. You'll put someone else in the truck or 3 or pets or young-uns, and you'll put camping gear in the bed, and suddenly you've suspended 1100 lbs over and behind the rear axle and raised the front 2".

Like others I recommend the Blue Ox Sway Pro. Not terribly expensive, easy to setup, clean, quiet, and you can backup with it engaged. Does WD and SC well. Check with them or a local dealer on which bars you'll need.

We started towing our Pete, a FC 27fb with the BO and it performed well. Started with a weak F150 and went to a properly equipped F150 and it performed even better. Got a steal on a used PPP hitch (towing gold) and moved the BO to our 7x16 enclosed cargo trailer with the towing dynamics of a breadbox (doesn't tow like an AS). BO made a huge improvement on it.

Just do it, don't spend Airstream money and save $600 on a hitch setup. Hope this helps.

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Old 09-16-2016, 05:37 AM   #27
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As with so many things in life...
It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

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Old 09-17-2016, 12:50 AM   #28
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Rather have excess safety hardware instead of not quite enough. When you are talking safety, overkill is not unreasonable.

When you are talking combat, there is also no overkill, just 'open fire', and 'time to reload!'

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