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Old 09-07-2013, 11:07 PM   #15
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Thanks so much for the hookup! I had read about Andrew on the forums here and there but couldn't find him when I needed it. Thanks so much!


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Well, Julie, now you know what it should look like.

While the Toyota club knows lots about your FJ, you won't find many other people that know as much about hitches as Andrew does and who have anywhere near the hands-on experience he does.

Before anyone asks, the only reason I know Andrew is that he set up our 1974 Sov, and we have been super pleased with it ever since. And no, I am not on his payroll.
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:29 AM   #16
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After installing the suggested hitch and braking system components on both the vehicle and trailer, you could call Andy at CanAm and get his suggestions for the starting connection links on the chain and angle for the hitch head for your specific setup as well as a starting number for the brake controller.

After driving from Phoenix to Ontario, CA and back in a week to have the Mercedes hitch reinforced at CanAm, I called on hookup day and Andy gave me suggestions for the screw jacks settings for the Hensley hitch that were spot on for the initial new empty trailer tow home.
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Still need to determine the capabilities of your FJ...
pre-wired for brake controller?
HD radiator?
trans cooler?
HD battery?
diff gearing?
payload capacity?
hitch weight capacity?
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Old 09-08-2013, 12:35 PM   #18
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Hey Steve,

Did you purchase a factory wiring kit from Toyota? Thinking about this brake controller per Andrew's recommendation and trying to figure out if it will work with the factory wiring kit. IF so, where did you get the wiring kit?

Amazon.com: TEKONSHA P3 BRAKE CONTROL + WIRING HARNESS FOR TOYOTA 4RUNNER, LANDCRUISER, SEQUOIA, TUNDRA TACOMA & LEXUS LX570 GX460 LX470 GX470. CONTROLLER + PLUG/PLAY WIRE KIT.: Automotive

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I tow a 17' Casita (about the same size/weight as a 16' Airstream) with a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser. My FJ came equipped with only the hitch receiver, so I had to install all the wiring and the brake controller. Also I installed a transmission oil cooler in addition to the one in the factory radiator. I'm using an Andersen WD anti sway hitch with the Casita, and the whole rig handles very well. However, because of the type of coupler Airstream uses, I would not recommend the Andersen hitch with an Airstream. I'm not saying it's a "must have", but I would not want to tow without a weight distribution hitch with that setup, and that said, the Reese SC hitch in the proper weight range is simple, easy to install, and works well.
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Old 09-08-2013, 01:11 PM   #19
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Actually, I wired it myself without a "kit". My FJ did not have the harness, it's just four wires, and I have experience doing such things.

There's stop light battery in, 12 volts in, ground, and brake power out. I also had to wire in the battery charge wire, and a heavy gage ground wire, so I was under there anyway.
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:34 PM   #20
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Julie5, your link in the post above shows the Tekonsha P3 brake controller with the Toyota-specific wiring harness that mates to the factory brake controller connector that may be hidden against the firewall of your FJ Cruiser. If that connector is missing (because your vehicle does not have the factory-installed towing package), you do NOT need the Toyota-specific wiring harness shown in that link, which usually costs $13-20 extra.

To restate, if your vehicle does not have the factory brake controller connector, you only need to buy the brake controller itself. The extra cost Toyota-specific harness will not be usable. The brake controller comes with pigtail wires for "universal" installation in any tow vehicle, which is really all you need; and this will save you a little money.

Also, the previous generation Tekonsha "Prodigy" and "Prodigy P2" may work fine with your Airstream. These have been in use for many years and are very reliable. The older Prodigy and P2 are lower cost alternatives you may wish to consider, if you do not need or want the extra functions in the latest model "P3". By foregoing the Toyota harness and purchasing a Prodigy or P2 (instead of a P3), you could save $40-50 over the P3 with the Toyota harness referenced in your previous post.

The link below contains brake controller installation instructions and information that may apply to your FJ Cruiser:

Tekonsha P3 Brake Controller Recommendation for a 2008 Toyota FJ Cruiser Forest River Trailer | etrailer.com

Note: What appear to be ads in the right margin are links to videos that show how to install a wiring kit.
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Thanks! Helps a ton!

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Julie5, your link in the post above shows the Tekonsha P3 brake controller with the Toyota-specific wiring harness that mates to the factory brake controller connector that may be hidden against the firewall of your FJ Cruiser. If that connector is missing (because your vehicle does not have the factory-installed towing package), you do NOT need the Toyota-specific wiring harness shown in that link, which usually costs $13-20 extra.

To restate, if your vehicle does not have the factory brake controller connector, you only need to buy the brake controller itself. The extra cost Toyota-specific harness will not be usable. The brake controller comes with pigtail wires for "universal" installation in any tow vehicle, which is really all you need; and this will save you a little money.

Also, the previous generation Tekonsha "Prodigy" and "Prodigy P2" may work fine with your Airstream. These have been in use for many years and are very reliable. The older Prodigy and P2 are lower cost alternatives you may wish to consider, if you do not need or want the extra functions in the latest model "P3". By foregoing the Toyota harness and purchasing a Prodigy or P2 (instead of a P3), you could save $40-50 over the P3 with the Toyota harness referenced in your previous post.

The link below contains brake controller installation instructions and information that may apply to your FJ Cruiser:

Tekonsha P3 Brake Controller Recommendation for a 2008 Toyota FJ Cruiser Forest River Trailer | etrailer.com

Note: What appear to be ads in the right margin are links to videos that show how to install a wiring kit.
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Old 09-04-2014, 12:41 AM   #22
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Julie, what did you end-up doing? Did you finish the project and are towing with your FJ?

We have an '07 FJ towing a '10 AS 19'

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Old 09-05-2014, 10:46 AM   #23
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We did and we are towing with the FJ. How is it towing the 19'? I am actually wanting to trade mine or upgrade to a 19. Looking for one right now and getting ready to put mine on the classifieds.



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Julie, what did you end-up doing? Did you finish the project and are towing with your FJ?

We have an '07 FJ towing a '10 AS 19'

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Old 09-06-2014, 12:01 PM   #24
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FJ towing the AS 19'

Hey, Julie.

Good to hear back from you. Love my FJ and Bambi and glad to help if I can.

Well, you certainly know the Bambi's back there. We towed from Florida to Alaska and the FJ and AS did just fine! Very happy with the rig. Here’s some thoughts which may help. . .

FJ and Hino: The FJ wasn’t built by Toyota proper, as the other popular Toyota branded trucks and SUV’s, but by HINO Motors, a heavy commercial truck company in Japan bought by Toyota in 2001. Hino Motors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . The FJ was built by a company that builds busses, dump trucks, cargo trucks, ’18-wheelers’, etc. You will be pleased to know that your little FJ isn’t a modified 4-runner, but a real truck made by a commercial truck company! Few folks know this.

Power: The FJ has ample power when stock, but after mounting some armor we added another 500#'s to the mix. Needless to say, the FJ wanted a little more power. So, I installed the TRD Supercharger and the difference is profound, both in power and fuel consumption. Power doesn’t come cheap. TRD - Superchargers If your FJ is stock, with no added weight, then your stock OEM Power should be enough to pull the 19. Here's the catch - if you're pulling over relatively flat terrain, your fuel mileage shouldn't tank. But if you're towing up mountain passes like we've done - expect your fuel to drop to ~ 8-9 MPG from a cruising 12-14 MPG on flat land.

Tow Hitch: On your hitch - I noticed that your hubby bought the OEM hitch kit, which mounts the receiver directly onto the FJ frame and not bolted to the rear rails underneath. Did you go that way? From what I researched, the OEM hitch design is superior to the aftermarket (Reese-type) tow hitches in that the OEM mounts to the center of the rear cross member allowing a more ridged platform for the tow point. GEORGIA FJ CRUISER - Accessories and Upgrades - Factory Tow Hitch Install

Most folks who buy the FJ don't get the tow hitch when ordering because the FJ isn't really designed to tow (too short a wheel base). However, if you look at the requirements for towing, it's not just wheel base alone, but all things; power, cooling, gearing, frame stiffness, wheel base, and steering geometry. So, the data shows the OEM designed/fabricated Hitch is the way to go.

Weight Distribution Hitch: I went the distance and bought a 3P (Hensley) hitch at ~ $2,540 reasoning the money was worth protecting the combined worth of the FJ/AS combo, in addition to the ride comfort. I tried a Blue Ox Weight Distribution (WD) hitch SwayPro By Blue Ox and it didn't make me feel very secure. The AS tows better then the box trailers I've read, but with a short wheel base, the AS without a superior (Hensley) hitch just is too squirrelly to tow in cross winds without one. Sold the Blue Ox and put out the extra (a lot) money to get the ProPride 3P Trailer Sway Elimination | Sway Control | Truck RV Trailer Hitch Accessories | ProPride, Inc.

GVRW: At 5,330#’s, the FJ isn’t a light truck at all, but with its max towing ‘legally’ capped at 5,000 lbs, it does limit us. Here’s the issue with towing cap. The FJ can certainly handle more than 5K safely if nothing goes wrong – like panic stops, rain+mountain roads, swerving at interstate speed to avoid collision, etc. That’s when it may get dicey. The legal part comes in when the injured party’s attorney discovers that the towing combo exceeded the manufacturer’s design limits and argued to a jury that the rig was therefore ‘unsafe’. Unlikely, but possible. I'm certain it could handle more, but for litigation evasion, we chose to not go beyond that limit. Most folks who do this right get the trailer first - then the tow tractor. But, I have no intention on trading my FJ for a pick-up just to tow a bigger trailer. Hence – the 19’ and not a 25’.


My lovely bride and I are living full-time in our 19' Bambi and find the space perfect for what we need: Bed, galley, head, and booth. We do most of our work outside as camp hosts and having a large ho use just isn't necessary. Besides, we've done the large house/land thing and found it only good for the banks in this crappy market. So, . . . we sold the property, thinned-down our material assets, then hit the road.

Your FJ shouldn’t have any trouble towing the 19’ Airstream.
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