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05-20-2012, 08:32 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1966 26' Overlander
troy
, Indiana
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airstream and motorcyclist
if i extend the back bumper creating a platform and removing my spare tire carrier can i carry my 750 nighthawk motorcycle on it. Or will i wind up breaking my camper or separating body and frame. If anyone has a idea pls let me know
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05-20-2012, 08:39 PM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hondasub
if i extend the back bumper creating a platform and removing my spare tire carrier can i carry my 750 nighthawk motorcycle on it. Or will i wind up breaking my camper or separating body and frame. If anyone has a idea pls let me know
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That's a no-no. They're not built to bear weight on the rear like that.
You'd be better off having a long-bed truck with the bike there.
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05-20-2012, 08:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
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Hello hondasub.
To your disadvantage - frame sizes in the 60s were smaller
To your advantage - You have a shorter length Airstream
A 750cc cycle is a big load. Heck, a bicycle is a big load when you consider the beam length aft of the rear axle and road bouncing.
The spare tire carrier on a rear bumper was never a good idea. Member boondocker had a rear locker on his 24' Tradewind back bumper. It seemed okay until he found out that he had problems.
Bouncing down the road with more than the shell load aft of the axle will amplify forces that definitely cause frame separation (leakage, moisture, floor rot). Sorry. The free life seems great by comparison but Airstreams were never designed for the double or triple frame strength that would allow this.
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05-20-2012, 09:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hondasub
if i extend the back bumper creating a platform and removing my spare tire carrier can i carry my 750 nighthawk motorcycle on it. Or will i wind up breaking my camper or separating body and frame. If anyone has a idea pls let me know
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It's a big no no as well as messing with the balance of the trailer. It will significantly reduce tongue weight.
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05-20-2012, 10:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
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I carry my Ducati 750ss in the back of my 6.5 ft bed Tundra truck. It has a very short wheelbase and is very light (420 lbs). As I recall I am still about 300 lbs under the rear axle gross rating.
Dan
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05-20-2012, 10:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
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Sorry, meant to load 2 photos.
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05-21-2012, 05:27 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Cape Coral
, Florida
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Versahaul makes a motorcycle carrier that mounts on the front of a truck. I carrier bikes up to 500 pounds on it very easily.
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05-25-2012, 09:09 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
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+1 on the front mount via receiver hitch.
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05-25-2012, 10:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cmreumund
Versahaul makes a motorcycle carrier that mounts on the front of a truck. I carrier bikes up to 500 pounds on it very easily.
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500 lbs seems to be the limit. unfortunately my bike weight 565 lbs.
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05-26-2012, 06:08 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Cape Coral
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Good news!! Unless you have bags (top,tank and sides) your 750 only weighs 485 lbs wet. Verify specs. What I do with my 1250 Suzuki (500 lbs) is put the bags in the tv while traveling. They get in the way anyway. I have towed 15000 plus miles like that with a heavier bike.
Thecatsandi's bmw is too heavy for front mount.
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05-28-2012, 02:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cmreumund
Thecatsandi's bmw is too heavy for front mount.
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Unfortunately, this is one of the reasons I am selling my AS.
I am looking at "Toy Hauler".
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05-28-2012, 04:46 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2010 28' International
Richmond Hill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thecatsandi
Unfortunately, this is one of the reasons I am selling my AS.
I am looking at "Toy Hauler".
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That would be unfortunate but as a RT owner I can sympathize...just hate the way the toy haulers have such a high center of gravity and you won't like the tow near as much. Know some of the loaders are heavy but this is an option I'm considering.
http://jettrax.com/Motorcycle-Lifts.htm
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05-28-2012, 05:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmcarter
That would be unfortunate but as a RT owner I can sympathize...just hate the way the toy haulers have such a high center of gravity and you won't like the tow near as much. Know some of the loaders are heavy but this is an option I'm considering.
Jet Trax - Motorcycle Lifts
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Not enough room. Even though I have a long bed, without the cap on in I carry a 27 inch deep saddle tool box. That leaves six feet front to rear and 94 inches from corner to corner. My bike is 96 inches tip to tail.
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05-29-2012, 06:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
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thecatsandi
I like the looks of the Rampage lift. It looks like it would work well with your Beemer. If your truck is 3/4 ton, maybe you could use a different type of toolbox that would allow you to install a Rampage lift. I am not sure that you will be happy with an SOB toy hauler. Remember that new solutions have new problems. If you are happy with your stream, maybe you could solve your BMW carrying problem, and keep your stream. Just encouraging you to look at all your options.
Would a Basecamp carry your BMW?
Dan
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05-29-2012, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TouringDan
thecatsandi
Would a Basecamp carry your BMW?
Dan
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Not sure a Basecamp would work. It would look a little silly behind my F-250.
My 31 Classic has served me well. It is too big for my current needs. I am not willing to pay new airstream prices.
I thought about side boxes those make the bed too narrow for the cylinders.
Once I drop off the AS in SPokane I am going to head down the street and have a look at the Desert Fox by Northwoods.
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05-30-2012, 10:49 PM
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Rivet Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thecatsandi
Unfortunately, this is one of the reasons I am selling my AS.
I am looking at "Toy Hauler".
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... and you wouldn't consider a smaller or lighter bike; we downsized from an 1150 RT to the F650GS and haven't looked back... all that work you have put into your AS - you will miss it!
Agreed that the mc is the next best thing to flying!
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05-31-2012, 11:26 AM
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More than one rivet loose
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Moving on.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mefly2
... and you wouldn't consider a smaller or lighter bike; we downsized from an 1150 RT to the F650GS and haven't looked back... all that work you have put into your AS - you will miss it!
Agreed that the mc is the next best thing to flying!
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the trailer is to big for state and federal parks. 25 seems to be the limit. The 31 served its purpose. Time to move on.
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06-04-2012, 11:47 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1966 26' Overlander
troy
, Indiana
Join Date: Mar 2012
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You guys are very helpful and i am considering upgrading to a smaller bike I am currently courting is a Christini AWD 450 DS and when i get enough money i should be able to talk her into coming home with me.
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06-04-2012, 11:58 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1966 26' Overlander
troy
, Indiana
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I know a guy who completely disassembled an old corrugated side steel trailer and built a custom high-low design shorter than the frame allowing room in front of the camper for a golf cart. Pretty handy eh? Could cause excess tongue weight but a person could play around with the balance some. Just saying anything is possible
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06-05-2012, 05:16 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Cape Coral
, Florida
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Michelle, Thecatsandi is looking at toy haulers. A good friend of mine just purchased an 18 ft "Work & Play." He reports it to be more spartan than most, more utilitarian, but with all the compforts of home. He can fit two motorcycles in it. After he moves out the bikes, the furniture folds down and he has a trailer.
He has never had an airstream, so he is not able to compare the towing differences. Also I find it interesting that the dealer told him to have it professionally checked for leaks every two years.
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