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Old 12-27-2012, 07:26 PM   #15
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....re-prog did help our "beast", but that was all that was needed.
It does come in handy for re-programing tire diameter, and checking for any fault codes.......

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"Another stand alone option is the Computer Programmer, I am using the Flashpac on our 8.1 Burb with excellent results. Several included tune options, perf, econ, towing, along with time distance logs, fault code read-out/clear, tire diameter, transmission shift points etc. Econ mode on our 496ci adds about 1-1.6mpg, doesn't sound like much but adds up over time."

The 06 8.1 Burb with 4:10 gets better mpg stock, than our 95 7.4 3:73 did with quite a few mods, went like stink, but 10.9 was the best we ever got towing.

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Old 12-28-2012, 08:00 AM   #16
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Carl,

You have not said what size/weight trailer you are thinking about, that I have seen. It would help us help you if we knew that.

However, seems you are considering a 1/2 ton truck, and I were considering a 1/2 ton, which by the way I just went thru all of that exercise, I would go with the Ram 5.7L with the 3.92 rear gears. It should easily tow most any Airstream, but the payload would be an issue with the largest of them, but it would also be with any 1/2 ton. Or, the Toyota with the 5.7L would also work, assuming you want to send some of your money to Japan.

Just my thoughts.
Have not really put a finger on exact size.. but can tell you in looking around at a couple units in the area, one a older 30 ft sovereign model, and a 25 ft model again older units, the wife is more incline to the larger units. go figure

We are actually looking more at a 28ft or 30 ft slider units. It seems they have the same GVWR at 9100 for both lengths so i guess it depends on interior layout and how it "talks" to the wife.. (2 ft is 2 ft) I am good with either but in seeing some pictures of the newer stuff vs older stuff, the newer stuff seem to be better layout.

I do read on other forums like sliverado forums where chipping can help some in both tow and non tow activities. I know the engineers are trying to get most HP and MPG but they also error on the side of caution as the vehicle has to make it to at least 5 yrs or 100K miles now on the warranty or they start eating transmissions and such.

Like some on this forum have related if by chipping you can get 1-2 more MPG or get more HP and torque during towing its a worth while endeavor to pursue. The break even point between cost and saving is not going to happen overnight but will get closer every night..

Steve.. have been eyeing the toyota 5.7 as well.. seem to be very good overall TV with little to no problems unlike the ford ecoboost so far, but the good news is I am still 5 to 7 yrs from this project of RVing and a lot can change in that time frame good or bad.. by the way did you go to work for automotive company??
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:29 PM   #17
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Carl,

You have not said what size/weight trailer you are thinking about, that I have seen. It would help us help you if we knew that.

However, seems you are considering a 1/2 ton truck, and I were considering a 1/2 ton, which by the way I just went thru all of that exercise, I would go with the Ram 5.7L with the 3.92 rear gears. It should easily tow most any Airstream, but the payload would be an issue with the largest of them, but it would also be with any 1/2 ton. Or, the Toyota with the 5.7L would also work, assuming you want to send some of your money to Japan.

Just my thoughts.

thought i had respond to this but see it did not..

most likely looking at the 30ft slider units or maybe a 28ft slider but it seems they have the same GVWR at 9100 so why loose 2 ft on the deal.

I was looking that the toyota as well.. from what i have read it rides good, pulls good and is not troubled with stuff like the ford ecoboost deal currently but i am looking 5-7 yrs out for something so things can change.

I do believe the toyota truck are made in texas.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:40 PM   #18
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I was looking that the toyota as well.. from what i have read it rides good, pulls good and is not troubled with stuff like the ford ecoboost deal currently but i am looking 5-7 yrs out for something so things can change.

I do believe the toyota truck are made in texas.
The Toyota trucks are assembled in Texas from mostly Japanese parts, and the net profit from the sale of the truck goes to Japan.
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:13 PM   #19
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The Toyota trucks are assembled in Texas from mostly Japanese parts, and the net profit from the sale of the truck goes to Japan.
guess that explains why they are so dependable so far.. plus the workers get close to union wages and bennies as a non union factory..

I understand about buying american i have a chev car, astro and ford vans for my business and all have been mostly trouble free.

If our government would get its head out its a$$ most of that money would stay here. The "cliff talks" going on today are reason one for TERM limits on congress and senators.. just like the prez.. most american voters are to stupid to know who to vote for and just vote for the same old guy.. ie, byrd VW, and the latest one to die from Hawaii.. in office for 56 fricken years.. WAY to long for one guy to be in office..

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I would advise you to study the max payload of a Toyota vs the tongue weight of a 30' slide out, plus all that you plan to carry in the truck.

I just went thru an exercise studying 1/2 ton truck fiesabilty for my use, and the only one that would carry the load was the Ford with the 6 1/2 foot bed, crew cab, but I can't sit comfortably in the Ford seat. The Toyota had one of the least payload capacities of the 1/2 tons. They have the towing capacity, but not the payload.
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"in office for 56 fricken years.. WAY to long for one guy to be in office.."

.....with a Medal of Honor.

Just say'n know of what you speak...remember he ran & was elected.

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Old 12-29-2012, 01:09 PM   #22
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"in office for 56 fricken years.. WAY to long for one guy to be in office.."

.....with a Medal of Honor.

Just say'n know of what you speak...remember he ran & was elected.

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not dissing his medal of honor. He was one of the first japan/americans to fight in the war for sure..

all I am saying is once a senator or congressman gets in office unless he/she screws REAL BIG they are hard to get out.. the old devil you know vs the devil you don't know. Where do you think we would be if there were no term limits on president.. look at cuba, hati, chavis in Venezuela, lots of countries in africa to see.. we get the same thing he with senator/congress.. old dogs using old tricks when what we need is more forward thinkers.

NOW... getting back to towing.. in reading the "best MPG forum" it appears the older (pre 2006) cummins engines are the way to go. MPG of 26 hwy not towing and 14-16 towing.. with that said the price difference between gas and diesel will have to get real wide, like 2-3 dollars, before it becomes to much overhead.

I was looking at a 2001 dodge 2500 with 298,000 miles.. seem the first owner worked for International Tractor and did not like to fly so he drove this truck everywhere.. the guy that owns it is second owner and said he know the first guy and oils was changed every 5K miles using mobile 1..

the guy said in email he had the pump and several injector replaced recently a $1800 cost deal. The truck look like new from the pictures both interior and exterior. I always look on carcomplaints.com to see what are usual problems.. on this year pumps and injector are the issue.. he is asking 8K for the rig. there was something about transmission work at 191K but the widow was not able to remember just what was done.

is this a good deal or just a ok deal having to look at pump/injectors replacement is seems.

any you Cummings guys can chime in here..
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Isuzu designed the Duramax engine and still owns a good portion of the engine plant. So a portion of the profit still goes overseas.
It would be near impossible to buy a 100 percent American made vehicle.
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The extract below is related to previous comments regarding 'American-made' content of several tow vehicles, "... the Toyota Tundra and Ford F-Series will be eligible for the AMI* because both have 75 percent domestic parts content, according to current data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration."

Link to Web page containing this article:

What Percentage of Your Truck Is Made in America? - PickupTrucks.com News


*AMI = Car.com's "American-Made Index"
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Does 75% of the net profit of the sale of the Toyota truck stay in America?
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not dissing his medal of honor. He was one of the first japan/americans to fight in the war for sure..

all I am saying is once a senator or congressman gets in office unless he/she screws REAL BIG they are hard to get out.. the old devil you know vs the devil you don't know. Where do you think we would be if there were no term limits on president.. look at cuba, hati, chavis in Venezuela, lots of countries in africa to see.. we get the same thing he with senator/congress.. old dogs using old tricks when what we need is more forward thinkers.

NOW... getting back to towing.. in reading the "best MPG forum" it appears the older (pre 2006) cummins engines are the way to go. MPG of 26 hwy not towing and 14-16 towing.. with that said the price difference between gas and diesel will have to get real wide, like 2-3 dollars, before it becomes to much overhead.

I was looking at a 2001 dodge 2500 with 298,000 miles.. seem the first owner worked for International Tractor and did not like to fly so he drove this truck everywhere.. the guy that owns it is second owner and said he know the first guy and oils was changed every 5K miles using mobile 1..

the guy said in email he had the pump and several injector replaced recently a $1800 cost deal. The truck look like new from the pictures both interior and exterior. I always look on carcomplaints.com to see what are usual problems.. on this year pumps and injector are the issue.. he is asking 8K for the rig. there was something about transmission work at 191K but the widow was not able to remember just what was done.

is this a good deal or just a ok deal having to look at pump/injectors replacement is seems.

any you Cummings guys can chime in here..
Hard to put a price on a truck with that # of miles,The only safe way is to have a good in depth inspection done before purchase.The injection and lift pumps were an issue in that model but not injectors.Feel free to pm me if you have more questions I can ck options also with the last 8 of the vin
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Nope, Cayman Islands just like the rest of them.

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