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Old 04-28-2013, 04:20 PM   #15
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After years of watching my parents motor all over with their various RV's, I have purchased a used 2006 28 CCD. I have extensive experience towing with a 3/4 ton and 1 ton and care to continue with that as a personal choice. Despite towing weights far greater than the AS with both, I've never towed anything further than 500 miles roundtrip and have simply never used a WD setup.

Is there any benefit to doing so with a heavy truck? I would love to hear feedback from anyone who has a similar setup with the heavier trucks and newer heavier Airstreams. Not hoping to start a debate between 1500/2500/3500 but would definitely appreciate some anecdotal and any technical implications of using WD with a 3/4 or 1 ton truck.

Cheers!
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Derek.

I have investigated over 1000 loss of control accidents specifically involving Airstream trailers.

You may have tons of experience towing, but you also have ZERO experience of what to do once you lose control.

It does happen when a person least expects it.

A load equalizing hitch with a good sway control, is insurance, regardless of your experience and tow vehicle.

In simple terms, don't leave home without it.

Think of your innocent passengers and someone that you might just hit, should you lose control.

Be safe, not sorry.

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Old 05-02-2013, 12:09 AM   #16
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I have a 2008 27 foot CCD. Depending on propane tank status and what is in the front of the trailer, the tongue weight can exceed 1000 lbs. My first tow vehicle was a 3/4 ton truck--A weight distributing hitch on that truck was definitely a more stable setup and what I used for any significant trips.

My current truck is a 1 ton dually. I don't use a weight distributing hitch with this truck and it's completely stable. You do have to get the hitch drop correct for this to be the case though. Now have over 20,000 miles with that setup in all types of conditions, including 11,000 ft passes. The factory hitch is rated at 2000 lbs. It's nice to not have to mess with the heavy hitch and it's an awesome tow vehicle. You get used to the amenities (diesel torque, Allison transmission, exhaust braking, etc.) and it would be hard to go to a smaller tow vehicle. However, like all things, it's a compromise and not what I would recommend as a daily driver.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:30 AM   #17
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I have a 2008 27 foot CCD. Depending on propane tank status and what is in the front of the trailer, the tongue weight can exceed 1000 lbs. My first tow vehicle was a 3/4 ton truck--A weight distributing hitch on that truck was definitely a more stable setup and what I used for any significant trips.

My current truck is a 1 ton dually. I don't use a weight distributing hitch with this truck and it's completely stable. You do have to get the hitch drop correct for this to be the case though. Now have over 20,000 miles with that setup in all types of conditions, including 11,000 ft passes. The factory hitch is rated at 2000 lbs. It's nice to not have to mess with the heavy hitch and it's an awesome tow vehicle. You get used to the amenities (diesel torque, Allison transmission, exhaust braking, etc.) and it would be hard to go to a smaller tow vehicle. However, like all things, it's a compromise and not what I would recommend as a daily driver.
Your absolutely correct about compromising, but why did you select the safety for yourself, your passengers and the general public.

Physics says you need a load equalizing hitch.

Want proof?

Go to a truck scale and get the weights, before and after hookup.

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Old 05-02-2013, 08:54 AM   #18
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I'm always surprised when people ask if they need to use a WD hitch.

There are no disadvantages to towing with weight distribution (and sway control/ elimination), only advantages. Why wouldn't you want to spread the load on that point some feet behind your rear axle across all your available axles? As the physics will show you, the size and weight of your tow vehicle is immaterial, a spread load means a safer tow.
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:55 AM   #19
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Your absolutely correct about compromising, but why did you select the safety for yourself, your passengers and the general public.

Physics says you need a load equalizing hitch.

Want proof?

Go to a truck scale and get the weights, before and after hookup.

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I'm always surprised when people ask if they need to use a WD hitch.

There are no disadvantages to towing with weight distribution (and sway control/ elimination), only advantages. Why wouldn't you want to spread the load on that point some feet behind your rear axle across all your available axles? As the physics will show you, the size and weight of your tow vehicle is immaterial, a spread load means a safer tow.

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Old 05-02-2013, 11:57 AM   #20
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:21 PM   #21
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The vehicle manufacturer does not exempt a DRW from the need for a WD hitch when TW is 350-500/lbs. Only anti-sway is optional.

TW is not the equivalent of payload. Payload capacity has next to nothing to do with the problem needing solution.

Poor steering feedback from live axle / recirc ball pickups masks what is happening back there.

It's cheap and easy to set this up and make for better performance. Less wear & tear, better braking & steering, etc.

And good antisway (integrated into hitch design) keeps the tail of that trailer in the lane where you want it.

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Old 05-02-2013, 03:40 PM   #22
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Antisway is not wd. My experience is that with a one ton truck wd is not necessary, but anti sway is. If tw is within truck specs, then anti sway is all that is necessary. Jim
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:51 PM   #23
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Whenever I get the urge to not hook up the WD I'm reminded of this You Tube video. I realize that this is not an Airstream but it's a great way to remember what may happen just the same.

An RV crash to remember - YouTube
This trailer was blown over with the wind. Anti-sway would have done nothing to prevent it, and WD would have little effect. Would have either ripped the hitch off the truck or taken the truck with it.

The wind can blow over full 80,000 lb. semis, and take the tractor with it.

Don't get me wrong, it's a really amazing video, and still can be a great reminder. Whatever it takes.

I've (thankfully) never needed my seat belt, but I still wear it. Same goes for the WD hitch.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:28 PM   #24
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My experience tells me that everyone else's experiences are not very experienced.


Sway is not needed, WD is not needed, anyone can toe without them.

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Old 05-08-2013, 12:36 AM   #25
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Yes, because even though your 3/4T can handle higher payloads, you need not only WD but also sway control ... we have had good luck with the infinite (almost) adjustments available with the Equalizer brand.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:31 PM   #26
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We just traded for a new 3/4 ton Ram( which is rated to two 17,300#) .

We have a ProPride hitch. When we first hitched up, prior to weighing the Front Axle before and after hitching, we noticed immediately that the rear of the truck behaved a little "squirrelly" ---being buffeted by passing trucks, etc.

The difference in the FA weights was only #200, but after we adjusted the jack mechanisms on the 3P hitch, bringing the FA weight back to the same as before hitching, the towing was "back to normal"...stable as a rock...(tested only to 65mph)

WD hitch? NO Question....I wouldn't leave home without it...especially the 3P!
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JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THIS....... This accident had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LACK of a WD hitch.

NO WD HITCH WOULD HAVE SAVED THIS RV-OWner from this rollover. In fact, if he'd had a WD hitch in this accident it likely would have rolled his pickup truck also because the WD would have transferred all that motion to his steering axle as well. So...his lack of a WD likely saved him from the possibly of serious injury.

Now... is a WD hitch helpful in more usual circumstances (other than towing a large slab-sided RV in high crosswinds?) Probably. And sway control is a good thing especially with that sort of RV design.

But neither had anything to do with this guy towing in winds too strong for his rig to be travelling down the roadway.
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Hi All,

After years of watching my parents motor all over with their various RV's, I have purchased a used 2006 28 CCD. I have extensive experience towing with a 3/4 ton and 1 ton and care to continue with that as a personal choice. Despite towing weights far greater than the AS with both, I've never towed anything further than 500 miles roundtrip and have simply never used a WD setup.

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Cheers!
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3/4 and 1 ton are two different things. Which are you towing with?
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