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Old 04-09-2016, 01:21 AM   #1
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23FB International and Audi Q7 both new

I'm looking for help on what to buy for hitching my tow vehicle to the Airstream. The Q7 can tow 7700 pounds and my GVW of the Airstream is 6000 pounds. So looking for advice on best hitch on Q7 and anti sway bars. Also want to tow 2 bikes and saw the bike bunk on Camping World site, http://m.campingworld.com/shopping/i...ike-bunk/72004

Would also need to buy a bike rack to go with it. New to towing with a trailer, owned a large 5th wheel a few years back.

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Old 04-09-2016, 05:48 AM   #2
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Personally I am a huge fan of the Hensley hitch, but that might be overkill for your setup. A Hensley, or comparable hitch, will eliminate all sway and make the towing experience just that much more stress free.

Have you read this thread? http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...rs-134917.html

It might well answer your questions.
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Old 04-24-2016, 01:06 AM   #3
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Personally I am a huge fan of the Hensley hitch, but that might be overkill for your setup. A Hensley, or comparable hitch, will eliminate all sway and make the towing experience just that much more stress free.

Have you read this thread? http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...rs-134917.html

It might well answer your questions.
Hensley makes a 6000 pound version called the Cub. Would work for my 23 ft and Audi Q7 SUV. Just not sure of the ease of use and cost. Any thoughts on how the AS works with the Hensley.

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Old 04-27-2016, 04:57 PM   #4
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Hello Bruce and Cathy,

I towed a 25FB about 5K miles last year with an Audi Q7 TDI. I used a Blue Ox SwayPro with 1000Lb bars and never had any problem of any kind. It was a great setup. If your AS has LED lights you will need a $30 adapter for the trailer plug because the Q7 does not see enough resistance and the lights may not work right. You will also need a Trailer Brake Controller installed. There is a thread somewhere on here on which I explained everything. Enjoy!
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:18 AM   #5
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Who do I get the adapter from for the lights? What brake controller did you use? The Audi dealer is going to install the brake controller since the Airstream dealer said they rather have the Audi people do it, they are not up on the Q7. Thanks, could not find the thread where you explained everything.
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:11 AM   #6
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Who do I get the adapter from for the lights? What brake controller did you use? The Audi dealer is going to install the brake controller since the Airstream dealer said they rather have the Audi people do it, they are not up on the Q7. Thanks, could not find the thread where you explained everything.
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I'm towing a 28 with a 2014 Q5TDI and I didn't need an adapter for the lights BUT I do have the factory tow package installed and I believe that it may do the conversion for the lighting already. My suggestion is to get the Audi Tow package installed which includes the receiver and the wiring package but does not include a brake controller.
Many here seem to like the Tekonsha brand controllers but I went with a Redarc Tow Pro from Australia. I wanted something that would tuck up out of the way under the dash and this unit works perfectly on the Q5. I installed the controller myself and found it easy to do. There should be a connector under the dash that the controller connects to and standard spade type terminals on the wires from the brake controller fit perfectly in the Audi connector. The Redarc interface is a single dial to adjust the sensitivity and when pushed it applies the brakes too. A multicolour LED gives you feedback on how things are working.
Enjoy your new Airstream and Q7.
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Old 04-29-2016, 08:38 AM   #7
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The LED tail lamp resistance issue is a known problem on German SUVs with Bosch electricals. In my case the flashing - when stopped, engine off, but still connected - has people ask me if it's a deliberate "special effect."

This is the part I purchased:
https://www.etrailer.com/Wiring/Tow-Ready/20142.html


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Old 04-29-2016, 08:44 AM   #8
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The LED tail lamp resistance issue is a known problem on German SUVs with Bosch electricals. In my case the flashing - when stopped, engine off, but still connected - has people ask me if it's a deliberate "special effect."

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Yes, this "Special Effect" happens on the AS connected to the Audi too. A little annoying but its not going to hurt anything except perhaps battery drain from keeping the controller active. I get a very slight flash on all bulbs about once every 5 seconds or so.
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:17 AM   #9
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Ordered one to see if it can counteract the turn signals or 4-way flashers causing the Tekonsha Prodigy RF brake controller to modulate the brakes on the 2015 23D International Serenity at the same rate as the turn signals or flashers on my 2007 Mercedes ML320 CDI. This experience is sometimes less than convenient when wanting to stop now with a turn signal on.... Actually could cause a jack knife in a braking turn on wet pavement.
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What is you hitch setup? Did you reinforce the Audi factory hitch? What is you tongue weight?

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What is you hitch setup? Did you reinforce the Audi factory hitch? What is you tongue weight?
We use a EAZ-Lift elite hitch with 1000lb weight distribution bars and a couple of Husky sway control devices. So far in 2500kM of travel we have not had one issue with sway or control. The trailer tracks perfectly. Granted, 2500km is not a LOT of towing but we have been very impressed so far.
Our Factory hitch was reinforced by CamAm in order to stiffen it up and to transfer more of the WD to the front wheels of the Q5. I do not know what the loaded tongue weight is but I am sure it is more than it should be but less than 1000lbs. I have yet to pass a CAT scale to find out. We are still dialing in the hitch as the bars settle to carrying the load. So far I have made two adjustments and it will need one more before I hit the road this summer.

Here is the reinforcement, needs a little paint that I will get to soon...


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I like the idea of no sway but am concerned with ease of use. Plus it seems everyone I talk to says I don't need it. Would love to hear more to help me make a decision on this, I have a few more weeks to decide.
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:40 AM   #13
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The reason I went with a WD/Anti-sway hitch was on the advice of the AS dealer that I purchased from and studying the posts and threads on this Forum. I have towed boats for 30 years without this type of hitch but the first time I towed a travel trailer I realized things were different. Not only are they putting up more wind resistance but they are balanced differently. Travel trailers put significantly more weight on the tongue. For instance my 26' boat weighs 6000 lbs and has a 600 Lb tongue weight with a triple axle trailer. My 25FB has a 925 lb tongue weight when loaded for travel at 6400 lbs. (both measured at the scales). I am no engineer but I think this is why travel trailers are more likely to have the sway problem, especially when making an emergency maneuver.
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Not sure I answered your questions. What is you hitch setup? Don't have one yet but leaning to Propride. Did you reinforce the Audi factory hitch? Have heard from a few others that it is not necessary, although can help. What is you tongue weight? 467 for the Airstream without trailer loaded the Audi receiver is 770 pounds.
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