23D and Ford F150 EcoBoost ... Great team !

[mattskav]

The 2.7EB is all the motor you need with the F150; after towing a 16 Sport which seemed non-existent behind my 2014 Honda OTE I was a bit disappointed in the F150 and 23D combo. I find the chassis of the F150 the limiting factor not the engines. While the 2.7 runs a seemingly endless 10 lbs of boost while towing it gets reasonable economy @65-68MPH and you can't even come *close* to going full throttle at this speed even at 8-10% grades. You can also blow past guys with new HD diesels pulling huge new 5th wheels with ease up grade

The issue seems to be that, even with a WDH, the dampers seem at their limit for the 750+ lb tongue weight and the steering is oddly affected even with the WDH set up nice and level.

I'm content with the match realizing the 23D is nearly twice the weight of the 16 sport and the F150 is only a 400lb heavier vehicle than the OTE, though I really expected more. If I was going to a 25+ I would not get a bigger motor in the F150 I'd get a bigger truck...

[NoResults]

It may be that you don't have the right set up on your vehicle. Also the 3.5 Eco is a much stronger engine and with the tow haul mode and 3.55 gearing I have no problem whatsoever with my 23FB. My tongue wt is much lighter with the fb vs the 23D.

I have the 7500 GVWR Package. Check your door sticker your truck may not be set up to handle the trailer and cargo.

Just my thoughts.

Dave

[RFP]

Originally Posted by NoResults

It may be that you don't have the right set up on your vehicle. <<< snip >>>

Dave

I'm thinking that you may be on to something here, Dave... my experience, and that of mattskav couldn't be more different. Our truck/trailer are rock steady and with CAT scale truck weight of [only] 5,680 pounds (hitched, loaded, and ready for travel), we are well under our GVWR.

I set up the Reese 'SC' hitch myself, following the manufacturer's written instructions. I did a bit of re-tweaking, and am delighted with the result.

Rob

[mattskav]

I'm going to have the dealer check the setup again. It sits perfectly level, I measured it and looked it over and the only thing that seems off is that the chains on the WDH are not straight up and down. They were just lazy and didn't cut the A frame screws down so they are hitting the battery box preventing them from moving more. It's a pro series which is junky but is the same WDH that i had on the van with the 16 sport that towed fine.

The truck is a 6500# I'd be curious to know your NCC... mine is 1417# I run less than that for sure, we've got 450lbs worth of people between the 4 of us and maybe an extra 150lbs in the truck.

With the 2.7 there was a payload package that upgraded the rear to a 9" 3.73 and added a manual parking brake but didn't give it heavier duty springs and lost fuel economy so i didn't get it. That package gives it an extra 330# capacity but the fact that it does not have heavier duty springs is what's leading me to think the truck is chassis limited.

It sure as heck isn't the motor, though it runs a seemingly constant 5-10 lbs of boost it's got more than enough power and the fact it has a CGI block makes me not at all concerned about the boost.

[gypsydad]

Originally Posted by franklyfrank

PS: I am pulling a 30' International that weighs in trip ready at 7,400 lbs.The truck is loaded to max capacity. My EB has the 3.73 axle. I never had any issues with trans overheating but did experience engine overheating on a couple of occasions as I described previously.
I don't get the mileage that the people with the shorter units seem to get.
At 60 on straight away driving I get 12.5 to 13. As soon as I push it at 70, it drops to 11.0 to 11.5. Pulling over Vail Pass on I 70 it drops down to 8 mpg.

Your experience of overheating on occasion is same as mine. I have the 2012 Platinum EB, Supercrew, shortbed also...I have now tried premium, this year in MT, and have had no issues. You make sense FranklyFrank...(even though you may not have the Porsche racing experience some folks mention)
I heated up 4 times over the past 2 years when pulling my 25' over Las Vegas grade...at 60mph....Also happened once coming out of Borrego Springs. Great info on this thread. I am anxious on the new EB with 10speed for sure.

[RFP]

Originally Posted by mattskav

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The truck is a 6500# I'd be curious to know your NCC... mine is 1417# I run less than that for sure, we've got 450lbs worth of people between the 4 of us and maybe an extra 150lbs in the truck.
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Our truck's payload is 1,870 pounds per the driver side door frame sticker. It's GVWR is 6,800, and since all hitched and loaded to travel our truck (with Airstream attached) tips the CAT scale at 5680, so, we are well within the truck's payload rating (by 16%).

It does seem as if your set up could stand a check up. Like you, I find it strange that you are sensing 'steering issues' (I forget just how you described it) with a nice level set up.

[RFP]

Originally Posted by gypsydad

<<< snip >>>...(even though you may not have the Porsche racing experience some folks mention)
<<< snip >>>

Dang, that really was a pretty smart-a$$ comment on my part, wasn't it? Sorry 'bout that!

[franklyfrank]

Originally Posted by gypsydad

Your experience of overheating on occasion is same as mine. I have the 2012 Platinum EB, Supercrew, shortbed also...I have now tried premium, this year in MT, and have had no issues. You make sense FranklyFrank...(even though you may not have the Porsche racing experience some folks mention)
I heated up 4 times over the past 2 years when pulling my 25' over Las Vegas grade...at 60mph....Also happened once coming out of Borrego Springs. Great info on this thread. I am anxious on the new EB with 10speed for sure.

Thx..
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I retired from all of that four years ago, turned the business over to my sons and hit the road with our beautiful Airstream pulled buy my awesome Ford F-150 Platinum EB.
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