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Old 09-25-2017, 01:00 PM   #113
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Old 09-25-2017, 01:21 PM   #114
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Arrived back in Austin yesterday, after 4 months and 15K miles on our 2017 F250 4x4 diesel King Ranch. We also put 7.5k miles on our new 2017 28' Flying Cloud twin since picking it up in Oregon in June. We pulled up/down all over WA, OR, ID, MT, UT, WY, NM, and Texas this summer!

The extra foot in the F250 over the F150 and the extra 2 feet in the 28' AS over the 25' AS was an adjustment for sure in maneuvering. But, overall, we love, love, love the F250 for many of the reasons mentioned in this thread! The cameras, the power, the handling, and stability is amazing! We set the cruise control and engine brake, select tow-haul mode when we start out and the truck pretty much does everything automatically from then on. It maintains speed, braking, safe distance, and alerts you of lane change if your not signaling. It also watches the blind spots, and will stop you if someone swerves in front of you; very impressive technology! We both felt very secure in heavy winds or around the big semis passing us...no sway whatsoever.

The truck loafs along at 1600-1800 RPMs at highway speeds, with an average of 13-13.3MPG towing. (15-16mpg when not loaded) I carry either a Canoe or 2 kayaks (100lbs), the Champion Dual Fuel generator(95lbs), and another 150-200lbs of gear; total around 350-400 lbs~ in the bed. I have not hooked up the automatic parking aid yet, but that is next.

Overall, we are extremely happy with both the F250 and the 28'AS!
Nice write up! I was interested to read your positive comments regarding adaptive cruise as I had read a few negatives about how the system reacted in some situations. I'm glad it's working well for you and hope that I don't regret not ordering it on my 2017 4x4 F250 diesel Platinum.
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Old 09-25-2017, 04:03 PM   #115
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Nice write up! I was interested to read your positive comments regarding adaptive cruise as I had read a few negatives about how the system reacted in some situations. I'm glad it's working well for you and hope that I don't regret not ordering it on my 2017 4x4 F250 diesel Platinum.
Setting the distance is important, and watching the traffic situation is important also. For instance, if it is a very busy freeway with folks cutting in/out without signaling, if you have the distance set very far between you and car in front, someone can cut in closer, and you will slow down real quick...so I adjust the distance between as traffic conditions dictate. None of this is a replacement for heads up driving; but it sure is nice when you are on a long stretch of highway, going up/down mountains with normal traffic...I can go from 60 down to 50 with a few clicks of my thumb, never touching the brakes....and back up again. Buddy was following me in his Class A MH and said he was amazed he never saw my bake lights when we were driving through the mountains outside Coeur d'Alene ID. ...
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Old 09-25-2017, 08:57 PM   #116
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Watching your speedometer is also important.If you get behind a person that slows down or come up on one going slow the truck gradually slows down and you won't realize that you have traveled that last 20 miles at 50 mph on the interstate.
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Old 09-26-2017, 06:09 AM   #117
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So this seems to apply nicely to what I'm going to be doing, following the advice about lighter bars with the Equalizer WD hitch...

Is there any concensus about the bars that would be safe for the Airstream out there?

Getting a : FC25(FB), starting tongue weight ~837 (understand may approach 1100 fully loaded in use)
2017 F-250 6.2L gas (wanted payload capacity to spare and I'm a rather sedate driver so not scared of pickup trucks - concerns noted Slowmover )

All you folks with setups similar to my anticipated rig please chime in and let me know (if using the Equalizer) your chosen bar weight/strength , want to avoid learning from costly mistakes and instead learn from the accumulated Wisdom and prior experience of all those who've spoken up about the needs as it relates to this new 2017 F-250.

Many thanks, look forward to your input.

Actually,tips for adjusting the Equalizer in my specific situation would be very valuable as well !!! I saw comments about this but how about it, only a couple weeks out for delivery of the FC25.....

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Old 09-26-2017, 08:41 AM   #118
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I've used the following combinations:

25' trailer
F150 with 600 lb bars

30' trailer
F150 with 600 lb bars (trailer was empty)
F150 with 1000 lb bars
F250 with 1000 lb bars

Based on my experience id go with 1000 lb bars.
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Old 09-26-2017, 08:52 AM   #119
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(previous 1200# bars were beating the trailer to death)
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(previous 1200# bars were beating the trailer to death)
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Indeed, heavier bars are going to put more force on the A frame of the trailer. That may not be as apparent as the dishes rattling around. It is expensive to repair down the road.

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Old 09-26-2017, 10:45 AM   #121
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Not dissing the Equalizer, but on our 2nd 2008 25' AS, it came with Equalizer hitch and 750# bars. They torqued and broke when backing into a spot, shortly after we got her, while we were in AZ. Dealer only had the Blue Ox with 1000# bars in stock. We used the new BO with no issues for 3 years; When we purchased our 2014 FB twin, we went with a new BlueOx with same 1000# bars, and no issues for 3 years we owned her. With the new 28', we went up to the 1500# bars, as tongue weight is at a little over 1100#. I would double check your tongue weight, and go with what the mfg. recommends, before I would down size...but that's just me. Dealer usually has a scale, but make sure you have loaded up when measuring.
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Old 09-26-2017, 12:27 PM   #122
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I've been struggling with the issue of which Equalizer bars to use with a 2017 F250 and a 2018 30' Classic as I'll soon own this combination, and I've seen the various comments about choosing 1000# or 1200# bars with this set up. I'd like to get it "right" before the TV and TT arrive since the AS dealer is providing and installing the hitch and the two sizes of bars are not interchangeable without getting a different hitch head.

FWIW, I contacted Equalizer. They told me that if the real world tongue weight of the 30' Classic is 1000# or more, which seems very likely, I should definitely go with the 1200# bars and associated hitch head. Comments?
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Old 09-26-2017, 02:20 PM   #123
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I've used the following combinations:

25' trailer
F150 with 600 lb bars

30' trailer
F150 with 600 lb bars (trailer was empty)
F150 with 1000 lb bars
F250 with 1000 lb bars

Based on my experience id go with 1000 lb bars.


Thank you Scott
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(previous 1200# bars were beating the trailer to death)


Your experience caught my eye , I'll be lobbying for serious attention to this issue at the dealer when the hitch is being thought of, thanks hhendrix
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Indeed, heavier bars are going to put more force on the A frame of the trailer. That may not be as apparent as the dishes rattling around. It is expensive to repair down the road.



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Thank you Bob I value your opinion it always seems reasoned and commonsensical
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Not dissing the Equalizer, but on our 2nd 2008 25' AS, it came with Equalizer hitch and 750# bars. They torqued and broke when backing into a spot, shortly after we got her, while we were in AZ. Dealer only had the Blue Ox with 1000# bars in stock. We used the new BO with no issues for 3 years; When we purchased our 2014 FB twin, we went with a new BlueOx with same 1000# bars, and no issues for 3 years we owned her. With the new 28', we went up to the 1500# bars, as tongue weight is at a little over 1100#. I would double check your tongue weight, and go with what the mfg. recommends, before I would down size...but that's just me. Dealer usually has a scale, but make sure you have loaded up when measuring.


Appreciate the input, the relationship to the new stout F-250 suspension is the new issue of concern though, hhendrix had some real problems with almost the same setup I'll have and there are whispers of other people seeing the same. Has been discussed recently with several advising a lighter bat because of the problem and unique new circumstances... hence the concern
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