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Old 09-18-2016, 12:04 AM   #29
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If anyone is thinking of buying a close out 2016, wait until you drive a 2017. There are too many new and exciting options in the new Super Duty for me to list here. Go on the Ford truck web site for the real skinny. One of the best new options is the 48 gallon tank for both diesel and gas. The diesel also has an 11 gallon urea tank. The new electronics are absurd and estimated 450hp and 1000lbs of torque will blow the tires off your AS. I am not a diesel guy any more, but if I was, the 2017 is way above bad ass.
Horsepower stayed the same as 15 and 16 MY at 440. Torque Went up from 860 for 15 and 16 MY to 925! Since Ram jumped ahead last year at 900 ft.lbs of Torque, Ford had to jump back ahead by 25....for now. Ram and Ford are both trying to reach the "magical" number of 1000 ft.lbs first. GM seems content to let them go at it, oddly enough?
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When I buy a new truck I get one with as few geegaws as possible. All the electronic junk is unnecessary. If I wanted a car I would buy one, but I wanted a truck, a truck, a truck. No power windows, no power door locks, no cruise control, no jake brake, no navigation system, all junk. Yea, I know, I'm outatouch. Ignorance is bliss.
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Old 09-19-2016, 10:53 AM   #31
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When I buy a new truck I get one with as few geegaws as possible. All the electronic junk is unnecessary. If I wanted a car I would buy one, but I wanted a truck, a truck, a truck. No power windows, no power door locks, no cruise control, no jake brake, no navigation system, all junk. Yea, I know, I'm outatouch. Ignorance is bliss.

You sound just like my brotherinlaw , a total minimalist. Doesn't even bother to cook , he survives on canned food and uses paper plates.
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Old 09-19-2016, 02:10 PM   #32
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When I buy a new truck I get one with as few geegaws as possible. All the electronic junk is unnecessary. If I wanted a car I would buy one, but I wanted a truck, a truck, a truck. No power windows, no power door locks, no cruise control, no jake brake, no navigation system, all junk. Yea, I know, I'm outatouch. Ignorance is bliss.
If you have any modern'ish car you have a bunch of computers, transmission, ECU, HVAC among others all are electronically controlled.

I will think about you as my truck automatically applies the brakes while simultaneously massaging my butt. (Both are actual features on the new Super Duty's)
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Old 09-20-2016, 09:02 AM   #33
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If you have any modern'ish car you have a bunch of computers, transmission, ECU, HVAC among others all are electronically controlled.

I will think about you as my truck automatically applies the brakes while simultaneously massaging my butt. (Both are actual features on the new Super Duty's)

Yes those good old simple cars. Needed new plugs, rotors etc. every 10,000 miles. Had to pull the heads every 25/30 K miles and new set of tires too.
I just installed new set of plugs after 80k miles on my 2012 F-150.
The truth is modern cars are more complicated and can't be taken care of by us old gear heads in the alley. However they are far more reliable and enjoyable.
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... and newer engines pollute less. Pull up behind an old truck (gas or diesel) and you'll see (& smell) what I mean.


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Anyone have real world mpg figures for the 6.2 or 6.7 yet?
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Yes those good old simple cars. Needed new plugs, rotors etc. every 10,000 miles. Had to pull the heads every 25/30 K miles and new set of tires too.
I just installed new set of plugs after 80k miles on my 2012 F-150.
The truth is modern cars are more complicated and can't be taken care of by us old gear heads in the alley. However they are far more reliable and enjoyable.
If you're tuning up every 10,000 miles there's a problem. I've had flatheads run for years on a set of points. Plugs went quickly because of lead. I run unleaded in my flathead and FE block (332 Thunderbird motor) and never touch the plugs. At least I can get them out without breaking them when necessary. My 1950 just turned 52,000 miles and I did head gaskets in 4 hours just to get a look at the cylinder walls and valves which were like new. Try that with a new one!
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Anyone have real world mpg figures for the 6.2 or 6.7 yet?
My F-350 6.2 gas gets 13.5 to 14.5 combined highway and city. I drive like an adult not a jackass like some folks I've seen with these trucks and I think that's why I get the mileage I do. I get 9.0 towing my 19 Serenity at 70 mph.
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My F-350 6.2 gas gets 13.5 to 14.5 combined highway and city. I drive like an adult not a jackass like some folks I've seen with these trucks and I think that's why I get the mileage I do. I get 9.0 towing my 19 Serenity at 70 mph.
Thanks. What's the best you can get on the highway without the trailer? Can you approach 16-18?
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Thanks. What's the best you can get on the highway without the trailer? Can you approach 16-18?
Lol no way.
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Lol no way.
Wow. I thought maybe. Not even if you reset at speed and just stay there?

I can squeeze 21 out of my 2012 f150 with the 5.0.
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So I went to the Ford dealer to buy a new Escape for my wife and start specking out a new 2107 Diesel Supercab. It's just amazing in many ways but the sales rep said it's the truck that doesn't require a WD hitch. It's because the new box frame and the hitch is a 3" monster assembly that carries deeper into the frame. No documentation I can find but at a Ford event, that's what the tech guys told all the participants. Anybody else know about this?
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Wow. I thought maybe. Not even if you reset at speed and just stay there?

I can squeeze 21 out of my 2012 f150 with the 5.0.
I'll keep trying for 15 but 14.5 is the best I can do. I drive for mileage anyway, a habit I learned when gas was $4 and I'm sure it is going back up soon! The 6.2 and 5.0 are much different engines, and my F-350 weighs quite a bit more than the half-ton. I commute 100 miles per day so it adds up but there is no match for a very heavy vehicle in the traffic where I live. you just have to remember the handling limitations of a large pickup.

Most of the half-tons out there will get 20 mpg these days. Surprisingly, the little Ecoboost in our Escape doesn't do that much better than the EB six in the F150. The diesel F-350 does well too, but when the miles pile up they get expensive to maintain.
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