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01-04-2018, 06:57 AM
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#201
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,741
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sbowman
Yes the new trucks are amazing, no matter the make. However there is something to be said for old school trucks and/or vehicles for that matter. When short fat "Rocket Man" or for that matter some other nut job decides to do the Electro-magnetic pulse blast, old school will still work. Never hurts to have a back up plan.
Safe Travels
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Hi
Unless you have actually *done* EMP testing on this and that, be careful about what you decide to depend on. Given the rather exotic setups involved in running a truck sized object through a full set of tests ... that's a bit uncommon. There are a number of reasons to suspect that the newer stuff may actually do better than something that is 40 years old.
Bob
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01-04-2018, 07:12 AM
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#202
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Rivet Master
Lakes Region
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sbowman
Yes the new trucks are amazing, no matter the make. However there is something to be said for old school trucks and/or vehicles for that matter. When short fat "Rocket Man" or for that matter some other nut job decides to do the Electro-magnetic pulse blast, old school will still work. Never hurts to have a back up plan.
Safe Travels
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Good point.
Time to "wallpaper" in the garage
"In order to enclose the equipment in a nested faraday cage, place the foil-covered device in a plastic bag, such as a freezer bag, and wrap that bag completely in aluminum foil. If you really want to protect the equipment against a large EMP, add another layer of plastic and foil."
At least it will match my hat
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01-04-2018, 03:28 PM
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#203
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4 Rivet Member
1972 31' Excella 500
2017 30' Classic
Grapeview
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 456
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Ah the humorous reply's to my old school thought is greatly appreciated, thank you. The "wall paper/plastic bag" for the garage walls, good idea. Would have saved me a lot of time and money over lead shielding, not to mention the cost to reinforcing the structure.
Safe travels
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Scott & Liz
2017 Classic
2016 RAM 3500 6.7
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01-04-2018, 06:18 PM
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#204
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Rivet Master
Kensington
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sbowman
Yes the new trucks are amazing, no matter the make. However there is something to be said for old school trucks and/or vehicles for that matter. When short fat "Rocket Man" or for that matter some other nut job decides to do the Electro-magnetic pulse blast, old school will still work. Never hurts to have a back up plan.
Safe Travels
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My 51' chevy runs nice and has a class III hitch. Just sayin' some of us never left the farm
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01-05-2018, 10:42 AM
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#205
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4 Rivet Member
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 275
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This Old One Will Keep on Running
1954 Chevy, 327c.i. 700R4 tranny, 3.73 Chevy 10 bolt-end rear, and lots of power
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01-06-2018, 05:46 AM
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#206
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Site Team
2009 25' FB International
2018 27' Globetrotter
Tavares
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,725
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsunami-v2
1954 Chevy, 327c.i. 700R4 tranny, 3.73 Chevy 10 bolt-end rear, and lots of power
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Nice! Very nice!
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01-06-2018, 09:39 AM
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#207
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4 Rivet Member
1972 31' Excella 500
2017 30' Classic
Grapeview
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsunami-v2
1954 Chevy, 327c.i. 700R4 tranny, 3.73 Chevy 10 bolt-end rear, and lots of power
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Very cool.
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Scott & Liz
2017 Classic
2016 RAM 3500 6.7
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01-10-2018, 06:49 AM
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#208
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4 Rivet Member
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 275
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Thanks...
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03-02-2018, 11:53 PM
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#209
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4 Rivet Member
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 426
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsunami-v2
With the new cap and Cargo Slide installed Friday, it sure changed the dynamics of the truck on the ride home from the installers garage. The ride felt smoother and quieter. With just over 1100 miles on the Odometer, we loaded the bed up with camping equipment and tools that we normally take the traveling and did all the measurements prior to installing the hitch. Got the Equalizer all dialed-in and we set out for a leisurely drive. First thing I noticed was that the Gen-Y Weight Distribution Torsion shank really works! We drove over several different types of roads, highway, secondary, and neighborhood. The Gen-Y definitely smoothed out the trailer feed back. Impressed with the F250 power and how the Exhaust Brake worked. We drove about 100 mile. Attached is photo of Gen-Y with Equalizer WD head attached. More to follow as we take a couple more short trips before heading out for a few months journey.
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Tsunami,
What size Gen-Y torsion hitch are you using? Do you think the equalizer hitch is even necessary? Would Gen-Y's WD system work just as good?
What are your opinions now that you have towed more?
I am getting a new 2018 F-250 and frankly I am not sure WD is even necessary. The Gen-Y which looks like great way to isolate truck and trailer to provide better softer ride of both.
My only concern is that there is nothing to prevent sway. I know Ford now has anti-sway electronics but still wondering how much of an issue sway is with the new F-250.
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03-05-2018, 05:18 PM
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#210
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4 Rivet Member
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 275
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I attached my Equalizer hitch to the Gen-Y. Works great. I can definitely feel the difference with the Gen-Y in-line..
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03-05-2018, 06:33 PM
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#211
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2 Rivet Member
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Hillsboro
, Oregon
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 76
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Tsunami,
Can you list the part numbers for your Gen-Y and Equalizer? I have a gas 2017 F-250 Crew 4x4 and am about to pick up a 25FB. I want to copy your setup.
Thanks,
Jason
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03-05-2018, 07:32 PM
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#212
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2 Rivet Member
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Hillsboro
, Oregon
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 76
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Which Blue Ox would pair with a 2017 F250 gasser crew cab 4x4 and a 2018 FC 25FB? Drop shank and bars? Thanks!
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03-06-2018, 09:49 AM
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#213
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,687
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roguegaston
Which Blue Ox would pair with a 2017 F250 gasser crew cab 4x4 and a 2018 FC 25FB? Drop shank and bars? Thanks!
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Your right on the border line with the tongue weights of that model. We used the 750lb bars for our last 2014 FB 25' AS and they worked fine. The 1000lb bars are likely recommended by BO, as your weight may be ~900lbs+ when loaded; need to weigh the trailer tongue weight loaded to confirm. If you go with the 1000lb bars they will be stiff for awhile, but they do break-in. We have them with our 28' and our F250 4x4. I'm sure someone with a newer 25' and BO can confirm.
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Empty Nesters; Gypsies on the road! 2017 28' Twin Flying Cloud
2017 F250 King Ranch, 4X4, 6.7L, Blue-Ox WDH
Summer-Star Valley Ranch RV Resort (Thayne, WY); Winter-Sun City (Georgetown,TX)
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03-07-2018, 05:32 AM
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#214
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4 Rivet Member
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 275
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roguegaston
Tsunami,
Can you list the part numbers for your Gen-Y and Equalizer? I have a gas 2017 F-250 Crew 4x4 and am about to pick up a 25FB. I want to copy your setup.
Thanks,
Jason
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Here’s the web link to the hitch I purchased. Best to call them to confirm the hitch shank size you want. I used my existing Equalizer hitch from my previous AS/truck set up. It bolted directly to the Gen-Y.
https://genyhitch.com/shop/weight-di...on-drop-hitch/
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05-29-2018, 10:31 AM
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#215
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Damien
2012 27' FB International
2023 30' Flying Cloud
Lafayette
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsunami-v2
With the new cap and Cargo Slide installed Friday, it sure changed the dynamics of the truck on the ride home from the installers garage. The ride felt smoother and quieter. With just over 1100 miles on the Odometer, we loaded the bed up with camping equipment and tools that we normally take the traveling and did all the measurements prior to installing the hitch. Got the Equalizer all dialed-in and we set out for a leisurely drive. First thing I noticed was that the Gen-Y Weight Distribution Torsion shank really works! We drove over several different types of roads, highway, secondary, and neighborhood. The Gen-Y definitely smoothed out the trailer feed back. Impressed with the F250 power and how the Exhaust Brake worked. We drove about 100 mile. Attached is photo of Gen-Y with Equalizer WD head attached. More to follow as we take a couple more short trips before heading out for a few months journey.
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Tsunami-v2, What spring bars do you have on your Equal-i-zer hitch? 1000lbs?
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05-29-2018, 11:30 AM
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#216
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4 Rivet Member
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 426
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Tsunami, Now that you have a little time with this setup, how do you like it?
Do you feel confident that you are getting good sway control?
I have the ProPride hitch which eliminates sway and provides good Weight Distribution but it is a solid link between truck and trailer. The ProPride with my F-250 beats my Airstream to death on just slightly rough roads.
I would love to have a smoother ride on truck and trailer which I am sure the Gen-Y provides but I am worried about losing the sway control that the ProPride provides.
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05-29-2018, 01:14 PM
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#217
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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RVDreamer,
I suspect the basic reason the AS is getting beat to death is the relatively stiff suspension on the F-250, more than the ProPride system causing an issue. Any WD hitch is going to be a fairly stiff connection between the two vehicles. The hitch does have some flex in it because of the WD bars, but they won't do much to soften the ride of the truck.
Have you looked at truck tire pressure and the actual rear axle loading on the truck? If the load on the truck is real light compared to the axle rating, this could be part of the issue--maybe adjust tire pressure to soften it a bit...based on inflation tables for the tires you are using.
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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05-31-2018, 06:18 PM
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#218
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4 Rivet Member
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 275
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVDreamer
Tsunami, Now that you have a little time with this setup, how do you like it?
Do you feel confident that you are getting good sway control?
I have the ProPride hitch which eliminates sway and provides good Weight Distribution but it is a solid link between truck and trailer. The ProPride with my F-250 beats my Airstream to death on just slightly rough roads.
I would love to have a smoother ride on truck and trailer which I am sure the Gen-Y provides but I am worried about losing the sway control that the ProPride provides.
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I love the combination of the Gen-Y and the Equalizer. I have had this Equalizer hitch for 12 years and never had any issues with sway. The Gen-Y is everything thats advertised. It smoothes out the shock transfer between TV and AS.
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