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10-20-2016, 09:38 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
2003 22' International CCD
2004 28' Safari
Sahuarita
, Arizona
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2016 Tundra and Airstream 25 FC Weights
So I went to a CAT Certified Scale yesterday and weighed my truck (2016 Tundra Crewmax) and 2016 Airstream 25FC. I weighed the truck separately then the two hooked up.
These are the numbers on both. Thought it may be of interest to the group. Terry
Tundra and Airstream Weights Certified Scale Weights
Tundra GCWR 15690 lbs
Tundra TWR 9400 lbs
Tundra Max Weight 7300
Airstream Max Weight - 7200
2016 Toyota Tundra Crewmax Empty Weights Full Fuel
· Front Axle 3320 lbs
· Rear Axle 2560 lbs
· Empty Weight 5880 lbs Max Allowable Weight 7200 lbs
· Payload 1320 lbs
2016 Tundra and 2016 Airstream 25 Flying Cloud Empty Weights No Water/Waste
Blue Ox Weight Distributing Hitch showing 3 Chain Links and proper set-up
· Truck Front Axle 3180 lbs Max 4000 lbs
· Truck Rear Axle 3520 lbs Max 4150 lbs
· Trailer Axles Total 5120 lbs Max 7200 lbs
· Total Gross Empty Weight 11820 lbs
· Airstream Empty Weight 5940 lbs
· Airstream Payload 1360 lbs
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10-20-2016, 10:17 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AzAirstream
So I went to a CAT Certified Scale yesterday and weighed my truck (2016 Tundra Crewmax) and 2016 Airstream 25FC. I weighed the truck separately then the two hooked up.
These are the numbers on both. Thought it may be of interest to the group. Terry
Tundra and Airstream Weights Certified Scale Weights
Tundra GCWR 15690 lbs
Tundra TWR 9400 lbs
Tundra Max Weight 7300
Airstream Max Weight - 7200
2016 Toyota Tundra Crewmax Empty Weights Full Fuel
· Front Axle 3320 lbs
· Rear Axle 2560 lbs
· Empty Weight 5880 lbs Max Allowable Weight 7200 lbs
· Payload 1320 lbs
2016 Tundra and 2016 Airstream 25 Flying Cloud Empty Weights No Water/Waste
Blue Ox Weight Distributing Hitch showing 3 Chain Links and proper set-up
· Truck Front Axle 3180 lbs Max 4000 lbs
· Truck Rear Axle 3520 lbs Max 4150 lbs
· Trailer Axles Total 5120 lbs Max 7200 lbs
· Total Gross Empty Weight 11820 lbs
· Airstream Empty Weight 5940 lbs
· Airstream Payload 1360 lbs
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Thanks for the numbers. Very useful. May I ask what is the model of your Tundra? SR5, Limited, Platinum, etc?
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10-20-2016, 10:22 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
2003 22' International CCD
2004 28' Safari
Sahuarita
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rostam
Thanks for the numbers. Very useful. May I ask what is the model of your Tundra? SR5, Limited, Platinum, etc?
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Yes, it is an SR5.
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10-20-2016, 10:56 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
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Looking at the axle weight ratings and your actual hitched weight you think there would be more payload than 1320lbs shown on the door sticker. I guess the engineers have to take into consideration all aspects of the vehicle; brakes, suspensions, steering, etc and set GVWR to a safe value.
Kelvin
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10-20-2016, 11:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
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Payload number is confusing because my Limited has 1455# payload.
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10-20-2016, 11:52 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
Payload number is confusing because my Limited has 1455# payload.
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Is yours 2WD? 4WD usually eats up ~ 200# of payload.
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10-20-2016, 11:56 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Parker
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I have the same setup, only 2012 models in both truck and trailer. My door sticker shows 1320 lbs as well.
But is your hitch distributing any weight? When you add the trailer, the rear axle weight goes up by 1000 lbs. That seems like the full tongue weight of the trailer. Am I missing something?
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10-20-2016, 12:17 PM
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Jeff I
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1964 22' Safari
Hammondsport
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So what are the first two weights? GCWR and TWR? Were you 1,190 lbs over weight?
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10-20-2016, 02:10 PM
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Links Travels
2002 25' Safari
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I have the same setup but with a 2014 Toyota Tundra Crew Max and a 2006-25' Safari SS. Thanks for the info; very, very helpful. Also, my model is the 1794 Limited Edition. After re-looking over your numbers, wouldn't the Airstream Payload be 1260# (7200 - 5940) instead of 1360#?? Larry
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10-20-2016, 03:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
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Sounds like a good setup. He is restoring all but 40 lbs to the front axle. That seems pretty good on a truck to me. The truck is carrying 920 lbs from the trailer. That seems about right to me. My older, lighter 25' transfers about 800 to the truck.
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10-20-2016, 04:24 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Woodland
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AzAirstream
So I went to a CAT Certified Scale yesterday and weighed my truck (2016 Tundra Crewmax) and 2016 Airstream 25FC. I weighed the truck separately then the two hooked up.
These are the numbers on both. Thought it may be of interest to the group. Terry
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If I follow your numbers correctly, you added 820 lbs payload to your truck by hooking up the trailer, which is about 14% of the trailers net weight. That leaves you 500 lbs of useable payload for passengers and stuff in the truck.
Assuming you loaded the Airstream up to it's max weight by putting 1360 lbs in it, and that 14% of that is transferred to the truck, that would add another 185 lbs to the payload in the truck. Does't that only leave you about 315 lbs for passengers? Or are you going to limit the maximum weight the trailer to 5940 lbs?
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10-20-2016, 05:20 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
2003 22' International CCD
2004 28' Safari
Sahuarita
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rostam
Is yours 2WD? 4WD usually eats up ~ 200# of payload.
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It is 4WD.
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10-20-2016, 05:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
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Mine is 2 wheel drive.
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10-20-2016, 05:25 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
2003 22' International CCD
2004 28' Safari
Sahuarita
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissingLink5
I have the same setup but with a 2014 Toyota Tundra Crew Max and a 2006-25' Safari SS. Thanks for the info; very, very helpful. Also, my model is the 1794 Limited Edition. After re-looking over your numbers, wouldn't the Airstream Payload be 1260# (7200 - 5940) instead of 1360#?? Larry
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You are correct. Math error. Thanks, T
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10-20-2016, 05:32 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
2003 22' International CCD
2004 28' Safari
Sahuarita
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J Ingersoll
So what are the first two weights? GCWR and TWR? Were you 1,190 lbs over weight?
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No I am not overweight.
These are the Gross Combined Weight Rating and Tow Weight Rating. These are the max ratings for this truck.
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10-20-2016, 06:57 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
St. Louis
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Not sure why looking at these numbers is so fascinating, but theyre fun to peruse. Makes me want to take my setup back to the scales too!
But am I seeing a red flag?
Tongue weight is 820
But TV rear axle gains 960
Front axle loses 140
Isnt the function of weight distribution hitch to shift weight from the rear axle to the front axle of your TV? These numbers suggest the opposite.
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10-20-2016, 07:10 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
2003 22' International CCD
2004 28' Safari
Sahuarita
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 56
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I am not certain I will ever post numbers on this forum again......
Folks, they are just the numbers from my rig. No more, no less. Interpret as you like. /tt
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10-20-2016, 09:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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Scale weights have been very useful in learning the actual capabilities of our trucks. Many years of towing with our two Ram 1500's and an earlier Tundra have taught us to load our truck to GVWR when hauling loads in the bed, more and it becomes light in front, less stable and reduced braking.
When we tow our Airstream we can use the truck's front and rear axle ratings (GAWR) to load the truck, and our weight distribution hitch to distribute the load evenly on it's axles and some to the trailer's axles. Within the truck's GCWR (truck and trailer loaded to travel), it handles beautifully, smooth riding and excellent braking. Rock solid stability.
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10-20-2016, 09:21 PM
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Journeyman
2016 25' International
Amherst
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Join Date: Apr 2016
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Very helpful thanks for posting!
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10-21-2016, 11:43 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Woodland
, California
Join Date: May 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
Within the truck's GCWR (truck and trailer loaded to travel), it handles beautifully, smooth riding and excellent braking. Rock solid stability.
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I can understand the emphasis on the GCWR, but I thought that the GVWR should be respected as well while towing. Maybe I am misinformed. Maybe I shouldn't worry so much. I just want to be sure that when I finally purchase my Airstream and tow vehicle that they will be compatible.
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