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Old 01-23-2019, 06:08 AM   #1
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2016 BMW x5 xDrive 35i with Invisihitch

I put a deposit on a 2019 25' AS international serenity with a 7300 GVWR. Before I go through with it, I was hoping to get some feedback on whether or not my 2016 BMW x5 xDrive 35i with an Invisihitch rated to pull 7700 lbs is truly capable to tow this trailer from coast to coast. I want to add sway bars but doesn't seem to be compatible with the hitch. What other modifications could/should I have done to provide peace of mind while traveling. I also have a 2017 Toyota Tacoma Sport 4x4 with crew cab should it be a better option to work with.
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Old 01-23-2019, 08:05 AM   #2
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Call Andy at CanAm RV. He is the guru of towing, especially of the non-giant truck variety.
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Old 01-23-2019, 08:15 AM   #3
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Dont know anything about the BMW but the Tacoma would not be a good choice for a 25.
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Consider loading your trailer lightly. Our 2018 28 Serenity weighs 6140 lbs from the factory. With all of our gear, we are just shy of 6700 lbs total, well under the GVWR.
Get your new Airstream weighed when you get it, so you will know your true weight.
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Old 01-23-2019, 08:46 AM   #5
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i looked at Invisihitch but decided against
i suggest a std hitch rated above your max tow weight along with sway control and weight distribution.

Andy can also beef up the frames of most TV's . If the tow/tongues weight exceeds the rated for your TV, he may be able to help.

he pulls a large AS with an older jetta to prove it works.

NOTE, some TV designs are bad, i.e. short wheel base. The longer the better for towing
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:20 AM   #6
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I put a deposit on a 2019 25' AS international serenity with a 7300 GVWR. Before I go through with it, I was hoping to get some feedback on whether or not my 2016 BMW x5 xDrive 35i with an Invisihitch rated to pull 7700 lbs is truly capable to tow this trailer from coast to coast. I want to add sway bars but doesn't seem to be compatible with the hitch. What other modifications could/should I have done to provide peace of mind while traveling. I also have a 2017 Toyota Tacoma Sport 4x4 with crew cab should it be a better option to work with.
Search for Jihong Tang on FB. She's a member of AirstreamAddicts FB page and also has a blog. She has an x5 modified by Andy Thomson. She's had 3 Airstreams: a 25', a Basecamp and a 30'. All towed by the x5. She sold the 30'. Jihong also has working knowledge of winter camping... good resource.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/search/?groupID=1544357289164612&query=jihong%20tang&ref= content_filter&tsid=0.3674644406088994&source=type ahead
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:25 AM   #7
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It looks like the Invisihitch is Rated for 7700 lbs towed weight / 600 lbs tongue weight.

A new 25' Airstream will exceed this tongue weight. You will need a weight distributing hitch system and the Invisihitch may not be compatible with this type of system.

This post has information from the manufacturer: https://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1490106
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:44 AM   #8
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Coast to Coast? you need a better tow vehicle. You can probably make it work but will it be a safe tow vehicle. We pull our 25FB with a full sized 1/2 ton, the 25FB maxes out the load capacity of our truck when rolling down the road. Also we easily have the power and stopping capability when towing in the mountains. In the long run you will save money by purchasing a full sized 1/2 ton or larger plus you and your family will be safer.
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Jihong Tang is currently pulling her 25 with her X5 and is on a winter ski tour. She has traversed multiple mountain ranges from British Colombia, Colorado, Utah, and now headed to Nevada and California. Check out her FB posts and am sure she will be happy to answer any questions about towing a 25 with the X5. It is risky business asking TV questions on this forum. Unfortunately, in the past many replay stating you can’t do it and you need a 3/4 diesel to go over the big mountains without citing any practical or technical expertise. Good luck.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:01 AM   #10
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I am sure it’s possible and I have no practical experience towing with that vehicle. But I will say towing a much lighter 22 sport with an f150 I can feel the trailer a bit and I’m not sure I’d want to be towing with a lighther suv. All that said can am seems to be the place to get info as others have mentioned. If anyone can assist they can. Best of luck.
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I have towed with an X5 (not an Airstream).

The X5 is well able to tow that trailer. I would not use the Invisihitch, I would remove it and install a hitch with a square receiver so that you can use WD equipment. You will also need a brake controller if one isn't already installed.

There are no modifications required to the X5 for the maximum tow rating. If you have the BMW wiring harness, it integrates into the vehicle electrics and turns off the rear park sensors when a trailer is hitched (so they don't beep), changes the rear view camera operation on some models, and activates the built in Trailer Sway Control (TSC) mode in the dynamic stability control, when a trailer is connected.

Talk to Andy at Can Am. Also, read his article on towing with German SUVs.

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I would also concur with the suggestions to contact Andy at CanAm. E-mailing him might be better followed up by a phone call since he is so busy. He also has a fellow employee that also does all the testing. Not sure of his name at the moment. Ron in service is a huge help and will provide the name and other ideas regarding the tow vehicleinspection and marrying of the TV to your trailer.

They have been a huge support to us on our old TV and the new expedition we have. Again, peace of mind and minimizing any risk or hiccups by completing good due diligence is always a better path. Enjoy your new trailer and all the kind folks you will meet, especially at the rallies! We do
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We drive 2016 BMW X5d - not going to work with 25'

Hi,

First, let me tell you that I know exactly what you are trying to accomplish I have the same dream and have tried to convince 'experts' and Airstream employees that I could pull our dream 25fb twin Globetrotter with our beloved 2016 BMW X5d M.

Not gonna happen (sorry I registered just to respond to you - first post I feel I have the most experience here regarding this question).

The real GVWR of the 2016 X5 is 6,000lbs. We looked at trading in to the new 2019 X5, heavier now with a GVWR of 7,200. I almost ordered a X7 with a GVWR of 7,500 lbs. In the end, all of these options cannot pull a 25'.

Your trailer needs to be ~70% weight that of your tow vehicle capacity.

I mean, you could pull the 25', but you'll have to go flat the whole way, and never expect sudden braking or anything downhill.

In the end, it was either upgrade to a Dodge Ram, or keep our X5d M and buy the 19cb. We are not ready for a pick up truck yet

We bought the 2019 Flying Cloud 19cb. Upgraded to 200 watt solar, LTE booster, etc.

We did a 3 week trip just over the holidays, Seattle to Palm Springs via Oregon and California Coast 101, through MT Shasta, etc. 4000 miles. It was amazing, and the combination was an amazing experience to drive (and random people constantly taking pictures of our set up for some reason). The total length fits in 2 parking spots, which means we were able to park anywhere for groceries, shopping, starbucks, etc.

Here's some photos of our set up, including sway bars, stabilizers, wireless brake controller.

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PS: The trailer is too small for sure. I sleep on the bed, my wife sleeps on the kitchen table, and the dog under the kitchen table. We are NOW thinking about getting a Dodge Ram and trading in. Will probably wait for the 2020 models.
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"Your trailer needs to be ~70% weight that of your tow vehicle capacity."

?? Please cite the reference for this guidance. Engineering specifications already account for a safety factor (i.e. the vehicle is actually capable of towing something heavier then what it is rated for.)
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