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Old 01-24-2019, 04:29 PM   #29
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I'm just a beginner with this whole thing so it is a lot to swallow. The tongue weight of the AS Int'l serenity is 830lbs and tongue weight capacity for x5 (just as you say) is 600lb so I suppose I will have to walk away from the deal I got at the Boston Show - and research who can modify my car locally. I invested initially in the Invisihitch because it increased tow capacity from 6000 to 7700 but again as a beginner - i didn't understand all the factors and made my 1st mistake (at least for this purpose). I truly appreciate your help and the time you put into the explanation. Can't wait to get to get into the AS world.
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At the time I bought my X5 in 2011, there was no option for Invisihitch. At the same time I hated to ugly bumper cut for the US hitch. I was thinking about bike rack only at that time, so I brought OEM Euro hitch from Europe (literally the hitch was on the flight with me to the US).

When I started towing, I needed to do the ugly cut and install OEM US hitch, so I could use weight distribution. Two hours job.

Good luck!
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:59 PM   #31
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Thankfully you and a few others wrote in previous threads pointing out what can / cannot be done with an x5 which is why I a posted a new thread concerning this subject in more detail. I appreciate your 1st hand example and apparently there are a few others with X5s having a good experience. by the way - what is the GVWR and tongue weight of your Trailer and have you done any mods on the X5 frame or suspension. Thanks again...
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The trailer is 6,400 lbs dry, usually 7,000-7,200 lbs ready for camping (tanks dry), max weight 7,500 lbs.

Factory spec for the tongue 680 lbs. Ready for camping 800-850 lbs with ProPride. I removed battery from the tongue, have 2x20 lbs cylinders and packing heavy stuff above the axles.

X5 mod: reinforcement of the hitch.
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:45 AM   #33
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Agree. Andy answered our question about our new QX80 towing our 30 ft. Classic.



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Do you still have the stock shocks on your QX80?
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Stuffing 100lbs of potatoes in a bag rated for 50lbs is possible but is it wise choice?
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:49 AM   #35
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I'm just a beginner with this whole thing so it is a lot to swallow. The tongue weight of the AS Int'l serenity is 830lbs and tongue weight capacity for x5 (just as you say) is 600lb so I suppose I will have to walk away from the deal I got at the Boston Show - .
AS brochure says the tongue weight is 830lbs. In reality, they a more like 1000lbs, some coming in even higher. The 25s have some of the heaviest TWs of all the Airstreams.
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Stuffing 100lbs of potatoes in a bag rated for 50lbs is possible but is it wise choice?
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AS brochure says the tongue weight is 830lbs. In reality, they a more like 1000lbs, some coming in even higher. The 25s have some of the heaviest TWs of all the Airstreams.


2007 34í Classic Ltd Slide Out tongue weight

1250 lbs

https://www.colonialairstream.com/wp...O_07_ss_lo.pdf

I put my 30í Slide Out on a 1000 lb sherline, couldnít take it, pegged out before jack post cleared the ground.

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Old 01-25-2019, 02:17 PM   #38
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The 25 Serenity has a heavy tongue. Much more than advertised.

I have a 2018 Serenity 25FB. Tongue weight measured on a sherline scale is almost 1,000 lbs with an empty fresh water tank. That was before I added a propride. I had a 2018 F150. After adding the propride I went back to the scales and I was able to get great results but the RAWR was maxed out before loading up for a trip. I did have a topper and kept most of my tools in the bed. Probably 600 pounds altogether. I could have made some changes, moved the tools back in the shed for one, but part of the reason for having a truck was also to have my tools with me rather than having to lug boxes from the shed and hope I didnít forget anything. So I decided I needed to make a different change and bought a 3/4 ton TV. I bought a diesel because it was in the truck that had all the other options I wanted. I donít know the realm of things that are possible to modify or reinforce TVs, but felt this was the right decision for me.
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Bottom line for me is this, make sure YOUR tow vehicle is rated to do what you want to do. Numerous factors come in to play, as spelled out in this thread, and numerous other threads here, and elsewhere on the web.

I personally wanted to have a topper, haul firewood, tools, bikes, tents, chairs, rugs, grill, propane, generator, and whatever my lovely wife wishes to buy on our trips around the country.

Next guy/gal might travel without all that stuff.

I'm sure Andy can setup that BMW to tow that airstream.

No doubt many tow vehicles are overkill. For this ole boy....I like overkill. I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it, and not have it
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Stuffing 100lbs of potatoes in a bag rated for 50lbs is possible but is it wise choice?
Please explain. Not sure how this is relative or helpful to the OPís question.
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The 25 Serenity has a heavy tongue. Much more than advertised.

I have a 2018 Serenity 25FB. Tongue weight measured on a sherline scale is almost 1,000 lbs with an empty fresh water tank. That was before I added a propride. I had a 2018 F150. After adding the propride I went back to the scales and I was able to get great results but the RAWR was maxed out before loading up for a trip. I did have a topper and kept most of my tools in the bed. Probably 600 pounds altogether. I could have made some changes, moved the tools back in the shed for one, but part of the reason for having a truck was also to have my tools with me rather than having to lug boxes from the shed and hope I didnít forget anything. So I decided I needed to make a different change and bought a 3/4 ton TV. I bought a diesel because it was in the truck that had all the other options I wanted. I donít know the realm of things that are possible to modify or reinforce TVs, but felt this was the right decision for me.
Great choice! Safe, too ...
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I tried it with a BMW X5 5.0 10,000# anti sway bar set up and it was like the tail wagging the dog the sway was ok just felt unsafe
I kept the car & upgraded to a 2017 Yukon Denali 6.2l Wow what a difference
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