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Old 04-26-2013, 08:00 AM   #1
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2014 Grand Cherokee SRT and 25FB

Hey guys, been watching the forum for a while, first post.

I have a 2014 Grand Cherokee SRT, it has a 7200lb towing capacity and a 720lb tongue weight with a 8 speed tranny, a 470HP/465TQ 6.4L motor, and 15" Brembo disc brakes.

I also have a Hensley hitch.

I'm trying to find out if my Jeep will tow the 25FB, at least for a few years, probably 200-400 miles once every few months.

The one thing I can't figure out is will my Hensley hitch increase the raw tongue weight capacity. There is a Jeep spec that says the tongue weight is 1050 with a weight distribution hitch, but I've only seen it in one place.

The 25FB is 5500lbs with a GVWR of 7300 and a 837lb tongue weight fully loaded with LP and water.

Based on my light load requirements I think my setup will actually work great but just wanted to get some feedback from experienced towers.

I was all set to get a 23FB but everybody tells me and everything you read says choose a camper first, vehicle second. Well, I'm stuck with the vehicle and frankly don't want to get rid of it yet as I really, really love it, it's my second SRT, so, this is my dilemma.

Thanks for any feedback
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:43 AM   #2
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Double check your specs as I think the SRT has a 6000# towing capacity. I have a '13 GC and a Safari 25FB that weighs in at 6280# and has a tongue weight of 800#. Just installed a DirecLink brake controller and as soon as my ProPride hitch arrives and is installed, I'll post the results.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:46 AM   #3
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Don't miss out on the 25FB, whatever you do. We are parked for the night after towing some 6,000 miles with our 5.7 Hemi Ram 1500 short (120") wheelbase with Propride hitch (new addition, same operation as Hensley) and it tows like a dream, very stable. Setting up the weight distribution hitch with scale weights will give you confidence.

Make a point to keep your tongue weight in check and gear in the GC light. Power will not be a problem.

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Old 04-26-2013, 09:01 AM   #4
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Thanks guys!

The 2014 is factory tow weight is 7200lb, a huge jump over 2013, new rear axel and the 8 speed tranny.

I'm also looking at the 25FB Eddie Bauer which only has a 750lb tongue weight. I'm just trying to determine if the hatch and better match for my vehicle is worth the extra $5-$10K.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:21 AM   #5
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First off, welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.

As to your situation, be careful about underestimating trailer weight and tongue weight. We have a 2005 Safari 25FB. Ready to go camping, it weighs 7,400# with a tongue weight of 880#. We also have a Hensley which adds an easy 100# to the tongue weight.

Being that you plan only to pull short distances, you will probably be OK with the Jeep. Keep in mind that if you carry a lot of stuff and/or passengers in the jeep when towing, you will very likely significantly exceed the Jeep's weight carrying capacity.

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No, no and heck NO...

A 23FB would be the max (and even then you need to be careful) and trust me, I had a 25FB that was towed briefly with a same size TV as the Grand Cherokee with 770lbs max tounge weight and 7700 pounds towing ala the awesome ProPride.

I too just purchased a 2014 Jeep SRT in conjunction with my new 2500 Ram Laramie 4x4 yesterday, the SRT to be my daily driver and the 2500 to tow my 27FB which has a lighter tounge weight than the 25FB...

The SRT reminds me so much of my Cayenne S & TDI Touareg.

Anyways, just to be clear and stay on topic - NO, to answer your question one last time...
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Wouldn't a properly set up SRT, Cayenne S & TDI Touareg overall be a better TV than a 2500 4x4 pickup??? By the specs (other than payload) it seems to be so.
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We tow our 08 23' International CCD with a 2000 Grand Cherokee V8 4.7L.. Tows and handles like a dream. Your SRT will handle the 25 ft no problem at all. I read an Article a few years back in Airstream Life magazine written by Andy Thompson of CANAM RV. Made a huge difference in how my Jeep handles.
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Wouldn't a properly set up SRT, Cayenne S & TDI Touareg overall be a better TV than a 2500 4x4 pickup??? By the specs (other than payload) it seems to be so.
My thoughts exactly...
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No, no and heck NO...

A 23FB would be the max (and even then you need to be careful) and trust me, I had a 25FB that was towed briefly with a same size TV as the Grand Cherokee with 770lbs max tounge weight and 7700 pounds towing ala the awesome ProPride.

I too just purchased a 2014 Jeep SRT in conjunction with my new 2500 Ram Laramie 4x4 yesterday, the SRT to be my daily driver and the 2500 to tow my 27FB which has a lighter tounge weight than the 25FB...

The SRT reminds me so much of my Cayenne S & TDI Touareg.

Anyways, just to be clear and stay on topic - NO, to answer your question one last time...
What about the f-150 ecoboost? Not good enough?
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:28 AM   #11
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My 25FB International Serenity had a 833 pound Airstream sales literature tongue weight. With a Hensley Arrow hitch and basically empty (new on dealership lot) trailer, the tongue weight was 1,150 pounds. Loaded ready for the road with water, the tongue weight is closer to 1,200 pounds.

Thus I had a 4,400 mile drive to CanAM in London, Ontario to get the 2007 Mercedes ML320 CDI factory hitch reinforced. I was legal towing the trailer home when new and empty.

After loading it for a test weigh with water, most of the "stuff" and my wife, the CAT scales reported the front axle was overloaded by 58 pounds, the vehicle GVW was overloaded by 238 pounds and the trailer weight exceeded recommended towing weight. There was no way to carry generators, extra generator gasoline and additional camping supplies in the car.

Thus the Dodge 2500 diesel tow vehicle is now in the garage in addition to the Mercedes.
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Axle weight rating are the limiting factor. That, and tires. That's it for "legality". All else is the funny world of RV'ng believing something that isn't.

Some of use have used trucks for commercial work and the above is what holds in law.

The scaled weight of each axle set, and tire ratings. But those one-tons plus trailer and load were, together, ABOVE 30k in weight. For about 300k miles.

And some of those same have also towed TT's with cars that weren't "rated" for the load, yet drove reliably and safely for 200k miles. Get the lash-up optimal on a decent choice of vehicle. Respect the FAWR and RAWR. Get the right tires.

"Weight" is far from first in consideration. It only matters in acceleration and on ascents. Other choices are far more important in choosing TT and TV (braking, steering, and resistance to rollover).

The OP needs to choose his porky Airstream so that -- with WD applied -- he is within this range. And that's it.

Trying to equate "weight" and safety" is definitely funny.

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Thanks all, please keep the responses/debate coming. I'm learning a lot, every response leads to some research, I really appreciate all the feedback.
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Old 04-27-2013, 04:37 PM   #14
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I am not getting into the towing will it or won't it discussion other than to say my opinion is you will be so very little over the ratings on the vehicle that if you load it carefully and drive at reasonable towing speeds you'll be ok. Again opinion only.

What I do want to comment on your trailer choice as my wife and I went thru the same discussions last fall. We started out looking at the 23FB and ended up with a 25 Eddie Bauer. We came to the conclusion that if we were buying the trailer for weekend to a week long trips the 23 would be our choice. However since we will use this for 8 to 12 weeks at a time the 25 was the choice we made. The 25FB gave significantly more room around the bed than the 23 and the extra width was really noticeable on interior room. You really see this if you go from a 23 right into a 25 on the dealer lot. The EB was the choice for several reasons, we liked the International style storage over the FC, the fabric is a version of sunberalla boat fabric , and since we do "use" a trailer the durability of this was important to us. The hatch is important for one reason most people won't need, we will be loading a small freezer when we head to Valdez for salmon, but more commonly it really does make it nice when parked in certain spots that just need to appreciated with the open air.

My advice is buy the trailer that talks to you and figure out the tow vehicle next.
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