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Old 03-03-2014, 03:39 PM   #113
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Pictures, post some pictures!!!
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:46 PM   #114
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Day two was a different story. John Steinbeck, in 'Travels With Charile' wrote "When I started this narrative, I knew that sooner or later I would have to have a go at Texas, and I dreaded it." Now, I wish not to offend any Texan - I held temporary citizenship in Texas for 15 years, and was stopping therein to visit my sister - but NW Texas is not on my list of scenic drives. We decided to press on through, and drove through the night to Clear Lake, south of Houston. This 732 miles yielded an average of only 16.4 mpg. A 20-30 knot headwind off the starboard bow didn't help. I dodged tumbleweeds the size of Volkswagens. It is said that Gentlemen Don't Sail to Windward, but drivers have little choice. Normally, I prefer to tow at 60 mph, but the Texas Dept. of Disregard For Public Safety has decreed a 75 mph speed limit on two lane highways such as US 84, and on a Saturday night in W Texas I had no wish to have a pickup implanted in the rear of the Airstream. I drove fast and suffered the mpg penalty.
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Well, you can hardly fault the GC for 16 mpg under THOSE conditions. Assuming the headwind was coming at a 45-degree angle, and you were going "only" 70 in a 75, your airspeed was on the order of 85 mph. 16 mpg is a fine result I'd say! I'd be happy with 10 under similar conditions in my truck (and under similar conditions in the past I've WISHED for 10.)

If you were holding 60 mph climbing up out of ABQ with no problems, it lends credence to the idea that the unit 2012FB had such poor results with was traded in at 600 miles for a reason other than a fickle buyer. You reported air temps 25 degrees higher than he did when that traded-in Jeep was unable to handle grades, too.
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Old 03-04-2014, 05:17 AM   #115
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Thanks for the update, JamuJoe. We just picked up our 2014 JGC Limited EcoDiesel on Saturday. Love driving it so far, but haven't readied it to tow yet. Has the tow package, but we have to take it to our AS dealer and have everything else made ready. So ready for the Spring!
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:41 AM   #116
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"Can we go too?" Thanks for that post! I'm waiting for some snow to melt so we can find our streets again before bringing home a new Jeep. A quick question: How do you like the seats? I have a loaded '06 with the worst seats on the planet. 2 hours on the road and my tailbone is screaming at me. Please keep the reports coming on your trip. Those of us who are snow bound can vicariously ride along.
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:56 PM   #117
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All this talk of towing with these GC's has me thinking I might have to pull off my hitch cover on my '14 Grand Cherokee and use some of that 470lbs torque of American V-8 muscle & go tow something!

BTW - where are the pics?
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:15 AM   #118
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Here's the rig at dawn camped at Sumner Lake SP in New Mexico.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:20 AM   #119
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"Can we go too?" Thanks for that post! I'm waiting for some snow to melt so we can find our streets again before bringing home a new Jeep. A quick question: How do you like the seats? I have a loaded '06 with the worst seats on the planet. 2 hours on the road and my tailbone is screaming at me. Please keep the reports coming on your trip. Those of us who are snow bound can vicariously ride along.

For us the seats are fine and comfortable. Good firm support, adjustable lumbar, two stage heating (a big plus). The overnight marathon of leg two and a 10 hour drive yesterday left us in remarkably good shape for a pair of 60+ backs.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:49 AM   #120
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Thumbs up Leg Three: Clear Lake to Gautier: 432 miles

Miserable weather on Mardi Gras!. No parades for us, save for the slow crawl among the 18 wheelers on I-10. Leg three of our first tow with our new Grand Cherokee Diesel from Clear Lake, TX to Gautier, MS was a hard slog through freezing rain, icy bridges and very heavy traffic. Numerous stops and crawls on I-10 between Beaumont and Baton Rouge due to wrecks and traffic jams resulted in an average mpg of 17.0 for the 432 mile leg.

My tires were also a bit soft, having failed to remember to add air after the descent from 7400 to sea level. (The driver was too soft to get out in the freezing rain to add two psi all around.) I added a TST TPMS (507 external sensors) to the trailer for this trip, and it is working well. Accuracy seems to be 2-3 psi at 50 psi. Tire temps never got above 38º on this leg. No need for a booster with the display sitting on the console in front of the shifter.

The polite voice on the Sirius Sat Radio was relentless in alerting us to traffic jams ahead. I-12 was a bit cleaner, and were were able to cruise at 60 mph and realize 20-21 mpg. Here I'm going by the computer, I haven't yet calibrated it for accuracy by mileage at fillups - with 400 mile range they aren't so frequent. The computer is so responsive that I can observe the effect of drafting as the big trucks pass. No sway whatsoever, though, the unit towed beautifully. I pulled in after dark into the flooded muddy side yard of my brother's beach house in Gautier, with no worries about pulling out again - that's one reason I have a GC.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:57 AM   #121
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Old 03-05-2014, 10:13 AM   #122
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Really sharp. What was your procedure for getting the roof rack? Jim
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:22 AM   #123
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I bought OEM knockoff cross bars which installed easily and have worked just fine.
2011-2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Crossbars Roof Luggage Racks OE Style FAST SHIPPING : Amazon.com : Automotive

I'll mention the towing mirrors as well. Denis 4x4 on this forum showed me these that he had bought elsewhere, and I bought them via Amazon. They do vibrate just a bit, but it's no problem and they really provide a good view.

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Old 03-05-2014, 12:20 PM   #124
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JamuJoe, Thank you for the information. I have the mirrors and will get the racks. You have been a real help by blazing the GC trail. I just do what you do and it works out beautifully. I should have asked before and I hope you don't mind, what is the make and model of your cargo carrier? Jim
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Old 03-05-2014, 03:00 PM   #125
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Seeing the new GC's recently and not particularly caring for the design either way (just kinda came and went...a bit indistinguished) I have got to say that the silver GC with the Airstream looks GREAT! Talk about a great, great visual match! Perfect size trailer for the tow vehicle, and the carrier on top actually makes it look BETTER! And, it probably helps a tad with wind resistance...

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