2013 Cayenne diesel TV

[jcl]

Originally Posted by gypsydad

You think perhaps, these pictures are because there aren't any Ford/Chevy/RAM Truck dealerships over there so they have to use what they have? Would make sense! I know in Europe, you don't see many if any, American made pickups driving around...

The point was that what many Americans deride as inappropriate tow vehicles are in fact designed for that duty, and contrary to some claims, advertised as such.

Lots of trucks sold in other countries, just not pickups. Most popular light duty trucks when I lived in Europe were Transits, Sprinters, and so on. We never considered the lack of US pickup sales to be an issue. We had many more capable vehicles readily available.

[mojo]

The opinions of those who have never towed with particular vehicle are just that...personal opinionated generalizations.



Having towed with a V8 Touareg, V10 Diesel Touraeg, F150 Ecoboost, and a Duramax Diesel 2500...I can only tell you that they all work fine. The Touaregs handle better and can stop an Airstream. The short coming is the payload.


Trucks can carry more stuff but are bigger and more cumbersome for many.


And it's not about the length of the trailer, it's about the tongue weight. The AS 25 has traditionally had the highest tongue weight.

[SteveNdebbie]

Originally Posted by mojo

The opinions of those who have never towed with particular vehicle are just that...personal opinionated generalizations.



Having towed with a V8 Touareg, V10 Diesel Touraeg, F150 Ecoboost, and a Duramax Diesel 2500...I can only tell you that they all work fine. The Touaregs handle better and can stop an Airstream. The short coming is the payload.


Trucks can carry more stuff but are bigger and more cumbersome for many.


And it's not about the length of the trailer, it's about the tongue weight. The AS 25 has traditionally had the highest tongue weight.

I towed our 2006 25’ FB Safari SE from Traverse City 320 miles to Can Am with our MDX without hitch reinforcement. Having never towed a travel trailer before, I thought the MDX towed “fairly well.” But after reinforcement I then realized our rig was unbalance. Towing now feels balanced and the weight is distributed much better. We feel like it handles well with evasive maneuvers, stops are controlled, and no white knuckle driving. But what can I say, I have no basis for comparison. So I guess it is all relative to what you have experienced.

[sbowman]

Originally Posted by mojo

The opinions of those who have never towed with particular vehicle are just that...personal opinionated generalizations.



Having towed with a V8 Touareg, V10 Diesel Touraeg, F150 Ecoboost, and a Duramax Diesel 2500...I can only tell you that they all work fine. The Touaregs handle better and can stop an Airstream. The short coming is the payload.


Trucks can carry more stuff but are bigger and more cumbersome for many.


And it's not about the length of the trailer, it's about the tongue weight. The AS 25 has traditionally had the highest tongue weight.

Help me, what am I missing? The bigger/longer AS more the tongue weight. Yes no maybe?


Be well, best regards, safe travels

[sbowman]

Originally Posted by jcl

The point was that what many Americans deride as inappropriate tow vehicles are in fact designed for that duty, and contrary to some claims, advertised as such.

Lots of trucks sold in other countries, just not pickups. Most popular light duty trucks when I lived in Europe were Transits, Sprinters, and so on. We never considered the lack of US pickup sales to be an issue. We had many more capable vehicles readily available.

So European in thought.............

[sbowman]

Originally Posted by bono

If all people towing with trucks do this as a result of informed decisions, then that is great. Unfortunately, IMO this is not the case and many tow with trucks because their neighbors are doing this, because they read over forum that you need truck to tow, etc.

I don't care what others are using for towing or how fast they are towing. However I noticed many times at campgrounds reactions of others clearly disapproving my choice. Truck owners don't experience this because if you tow with truck, you are fine.

Kindly suggest a different camp ground. Trust me, we see a lot of people towing w/trucks IMO are under sized for what they are towing. However it is their AS and TV, not my problem.



Be well, best regards, and safe travels...........

[sbowman]

Originally Posted by Countryboy59

Guys like trucks. That’s why they buy them. It’s that simple. Outdoorsy types tend to prefer pickup trucks. I’m not gonna show up to deer camp in a Porsche.

How about Elk camp?.............


Be well, best regards, and safe travels

[sbowman]

Originally Posted by bono

If all people towing with trucks do this as a result of informed decisions, then that is great. Unfortunately, IMO this is not the case and many tow with trucks because their neighbors are doing this, because they read over forum that you need truck to tow, etc.

I don't care what others are using for towing or how fast they are towing. However I noticed many times at campgrounds reactions of others clearly disapproving my choice. Truck owners don't experience this because if you tow with truck, you are fine.

Keeping up w/the Jones is a suburban thing IMO. Try country liven. Trucks are part of every day life, oh and the dogs too.



Be well, best regards, and safe travels

[sbowman]

Sorry wayyyyyyy to much humorous comments. I could not help myself. Shame on me................


All be well, best regards, and safe travels to all.

[SteveNdebbie]

Originally Posted by sbowman

Sorry wayyyyyyy to much humorous comments. I could not help myself. Shame on me................


All be well, best regards, and safe travels to all.

And your ex got the house and the Subaru too [emoji26][emoji481]

[jcl]

Originally Posted by sbowman

So European in thought.............

Originally Posted by sbowman

Sorry wayyyyyyy to much humorous comments. I could not help myself. Shame on me................

Oh, OK, it was a joke. I didn't know what it meant.

[bono]

That would need to be in Canada... or Europe... to far for weekend trips.

Originally Posted by sbowman

Kindly suggest a different camp ground. (...)

[pmclemore]

My dad towed his 28' Holiday Rambler with is Bonneville (set up for towing) well into the 80's.

Pat

[thewarden]

Originally Posted by sbowman

Help me, what am I missing? The bigger/longer AS more the tongue weight. Yes no maybe?


Be well, best regards, safe travels

Not necessarily. The 2016 published TW for a 25 is 886 lbs while the 27FB is 770 lbs and the 30 is 880 lbs. However, the TW for the 28 that the OP is looking at is the heaviest of all, 950 lbs.

[sbowman]

Originally Posted by thewarden

Not necessarily. The 2016 published TW for a 25 is 886 lbs while the 27FB is 770 lbs and the 30 is 880 lbs. However, the TW for the 28 that the OP is looking at is the heaviest of all, 950 lbs.

Published weight LOL, not at you however at AS. Our 2017 30' Classic 1100 lbs. and yes AS published weight at 880.



Best regards and safe travels...........

[gypsydad]

Originally Posted by sbowman

Published weight LOL, not at you however at AS. Our 2017 30' Classic 1100 lbs. and yes AS published weight at 880.



Best regards and safe travels...........

Our 2017 28 is at 1100lbs tongue weight.

[thewarden]

Originally Posted by sbowman

Published weight LOL, not at you however at AS. Our 2017 30' Classic 1100 lbs. and yes AS published weight at 880.



Best regards and safe travels...........

Yup, my 27 FB is pushing 900 lbs, but it is all relative. The point is that bigger/longer does not automatically mean higher TW.

[Bill_Sprague]

Originally Posted by sbowman

Sorry wayyyyyyy to much humorous comments. I could not help myself. Shame on me................


All be well, best regards, and safe travels to all.

Happy Thanksgiving! Aaaannnnddd I'm running low on popcorn!

Best,

Bill

[Pillow]

This may be duplicated info, but here is the specs from the official Porsche dealer installation instructions for the Gen1 (2004-2010) Cayenne. Sorry I lost the link, but downloaded the PDF yesterday. PM me with your email if anyone needs the installation instructions for a Gen1. FWIW the hitch is actually made by Westfalia for VW/Porsche/Audi group.

Max Trailer Weight
Weight Distributing 7700 pounds
Weight Carrying 7700 pounds

Max Tongue Weight
Weight Distributing 616 pounds
Weight Carrying 616 pounds


FWIW I am picking up a 2010 Porsche Cayenne S tomorrow as the new daily and tow beast. Drive one and you will agree that it is more capable and planted than a traditional Tahoe/Yukon short body.

The plan is to have it setup and towing the Spartan down for the TCT Centennial Celebration in FL! Hopefully see some of you all at the event!

[TouringDan]

My present TV is a 2008 Tundra which I love. The problem is that it is HUGE. We are small car people. We are joining this thread as I anticipate our next TV may be a Cayenne S. I believe it will tow our 5,000 Lb 66 Tradewind just fine.

Dan