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Old 03-17-2015, 07:11 AM   #57
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It's always worth remembering, and I don't mean this nastily, that the plural of "anecdote" isn't "data".
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:05 AM   #58
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Currently own Ford Boomer (TC25D) (diesel), 2011 Audi A3 TDI (diesel), 06 Chevy 2500 HD (diesel), and previously owned a VW Jetta TDI (diesel), just want to state my experience with diesel vehicles. Never had a moments problem with either of the TDI powered cars and get/got outstanding fuel economy. My diesel truck has had a couple glow plugs fail, but hey its a mechanical device and one should expect, over the long haul, to have problems. Now back to towing with a VAG vehicle, I have a personal phobia towing anything a couple times bigger than the tow vehicle at highway speed. Not that it can't be done, but just because it can be done doesn't mean that it should be. Watch the attached video and ask yourself what would have happened if the tow vehicle had been a lot smaller than the big truck in this video.

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Old 03-17-2015, 08:27 AM   #59
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Can we please stop posting stuff designed to scare people into believing the myth that bigger is automatically safer. It's not, we've had this discussion time after time after time.

A vehicle with a high centre of gravity is far more likely to be the cause of an accident that to help prevent it. A vehicle with the majority of its mass closer to the road would have benefitted from a significant safety margin in this scenario. That's not an opinion, that's physics.

The trailer flipped due to high winds - we have zero knowledge of the towing setup.
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Old 03-17-2015, 09:27 AM   #60
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A vehicle with a high centre of gravity is far more likely to be the cause of an accident that to help prevent it. A vehicle with the majority of its mass closer to the road would have benefitted from a significant safety margin in this scenario. That's not an opinion, that's physics.
People use the "high center of gravity" like a curse word around here. A few weeks ago, I had to catch a flight and the taxi was late. I told the driver to speed it up, so I don't miss my flight. The taxi was a Dogge Grand Caravan, a minivan. I have never driven a minivan before. The vehicle, which is supposedly close to the ground, has significant body roll when cornering at speed. My Subaru, has high center of gravity (8.7" of ground clearance) and actually corners pretty good at high speed, much much better than that Minivan. Its not as simple as you try to portray it.
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The best source of non-anecdotal information about vehicle reliability is "Consumer Reports" and "Truedelta.com" both of which tally their members' responses to periodically issued survey request. T think Consumer Reports may have a larger survey database, but True Delta's information is more meaningful. Also, True Delta is free; CR requires a subscription.
Regarding the importance of size; center of gravity of the TV is not as important as the relative mass of the towed and the towing vehicle. The tow vehicle needs to control the towed vehicle (especially when taking or slowing on a cut a and not be pushed around by it. A relatively bigger tow vehicle males this easier. Of course a tow vehicle with a high CG may roll more easily (assuming it doesn't side slip first), but, as the video shows, the CG of the trailer is more important. Moreover in the video, it was the mass of the TV that resisted rolling sufficiently that the hitched failed under the strain, allowing the trailer to roll while leaving the TV upright.
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What I'd reply would be merely irrelavent to you as you have rose coloured glasses on. You don't want the truth, can't handle the truth but wish to surround yourself with those that say "Yes sir, three bags full sir".

I wasn't commenting on your Audi but gave you real world impressions of VAG quality and parts cost.

FYI My boss is now leasing a Ford F150 after picking up his Touareg yesterday from the mechanics. He had to get new rotors, a new caliper, pads and $60,00 sensors. The total bill in his words was "It's two lease payments on the Ford". The lease payments on a 2015 F-150 with 40,000 kms yearly are $967.00.

He's had enough of VAG.

I'm out.
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Unless that's his "yearly" payment, I'm unimpressed. F-150 is such a broad range I can't tell if that's a good deal on his truck rental or otherwise.
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We left billings tues afternoon, traveling to San Diego with our 31' classic behind our 07 dodge with a 6.7, we looked and did not see one,not even one , car pulling a trailer, let alone an airstream. We did see quite a number of tall pickups, mostly diesel going down the road.....
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I own a 2010 VW Golf TDI and a 2014 Touareg TDI that I tow a 25 ft flying cloud with. I use a reese hitch and it tows great. I didn't reinforce the hitch but I will if I see a problem.

I lost a high pressure fuel pump on the 2010 Golf last year and VW replaced it and the entire fuel system. Total cost to me $0, cost to VW $7000.00. The warranty is up, however they admitted a problem with the old pumps and took care of it, I didn't even have to ask. No other problems with either car. Diesel is 30 cents cheaper per gallon right now in the States than gas. I average 16-18 mpg towing depending on the hills and the speed. I towed the Grapevine on the I-5, 3 days ago, a long 6% grade in Southern California at 60mph. At one point I got stuck behind a big rig and dropped to 30. I easily passed and accelerated back to 60 without breaking a sweat. Cars around me were doing 70 at best. 20 mph crosswinds are barely noticed and it is very quiet on the inside at 60 mph. I passed many diesel pushers up the hill.

I am sure you all know that VW owns Audi, and Porsche. They make 2 Touaregs, then 1 Cayenne on the same assembly line. I was looking at the A3 TDI until I saw a $5000.00 price difference for the same Golf TDI. I took the same stance with the Touareg and the Porsche Cayenne.
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