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Old 03-15-2015, 11:03 AM   #43
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Rostram, knowledge of cars is not equal to knowledge of towing. One could argue that you are adding nothing to these towing posts but your bias against alternative towing setups. Like I said, don't like them, move on and let the rest of us have our discussions about setups that clearly are working and being used every day.
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:07 AM   #44
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Rostram, knowledge of cars is not equal to knowledge of towing. One could argue that you are adding nothing to these towing posts but your bias against alternative towing setups. Like I said, don't like them, move on and let the rest of us have our discussions about setups that clearly are working and being used every day.
Its you that's taking these threads off topic. I think you should stop and let others have their discussion.
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:26 AM   #45
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Apologies to the OP for the sidetrack. My only excuse is that I'm tired of people with no experience inserting themselves into every towing thread that discusses any vehicle other than a full sized American truck or suv with dire warnings of one sort or the other. Hopefully, people with see his 'input' for what it is.
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You're all wrong, all of you. The very best tow vehicle in the world is the Mercedes-Benz Unimog, specifically the U500 that can tow 1000 metric tons, up a freakin mountain if it wants too.

Ford, Chevy, Dodge Rams quake and shiver in its mere shadow....except for Toyota Tundra's, as they can tow a space shuttle.

Audi's are good vehicles. I do love how VAG does their interiors; makes the interior of my Nissan look like a Rubbermaid trash can.

Sorry for the thread hijack as these towing guys can get a little too excited.

FYI My 310 turbo diesel can tow anything!......as long as it's under 2000 lbs.

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Old 03-15-2015, 02:04 PM   #47
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Great to hear these positive reviews. The Q7 is on the list for our next car, once the Van isn't needed anymore.

Beautiful engines in these.
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Hopefully, people with see his 'input' for what it is.
We do!
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Regarding your mpg question, on a 1,850 mile trip last spring from Ohio to South Carolina and back through the mountains of Tennessee and North Carolina we averaged 16.4 mpg for the entire trip. Towing typically runs around 15.5 and we did some driving unhitched so that accounts for the difference. As for your observation of the 8 speed and typical rpm, it does the exact same thing when towing. Usually hangs around 1,800 to 1,900 rpm. Unless going up a significant hill, then around 2,400 unless you want to pick up some speed. And the engine controls speed on the descents such that braking is often not necessary.
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Regarding your mpg question, on a 1,850 mile trip last spring from Ohio to South Carolina and back through the mountains of Tennessee and North Carolina we averaged 16.4 mpg for the entire trip. Towing typically runs around 15.5 and we did some driving unhitched so that accounts for the difference. As for your observation of the 8 speed and typical rpm, it does the exact same thing when towing. Usually hangs around 1,800 to 1,900 rpm. Unless going up a significant hill, then around 2,400 unless you want to pick up some speed. And the engine controls speed on the descents such that braking is often not necessary.
Thank you for the detailed and relevant reply !

Not that the irrelevant ones from Isuzu and rostam aren't entertaining also.
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You're all wrong, all of you. The very best tow vehicle in the world is the Mercedes-Benz Unimog, specifically the U500 that can tow 1000 metric tons, up a freakin mountain if it wants too.

Ford, Chevy, Dodge Rams quake and shiver in its mere shadow....except for Toyota Tundra's, as they can tow a space shuttle.

Audi's are good vehicles. I do love how VAG does their interiors; makes the interior of my Nissan look like a Rubbermaid trash can.

Sorry for the thread hijack as these towing guys can get a little too excited.

FYI My 310 turbo diesel can tow anything!......as long as it's under 2000 lbs.

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Given that my Audi is just waiting to recycle metal shavings left over from the sloppy Czech factory workers (or the turbo shaft lubricator?) through the oil filter bypass and sandblast itself to death from the inside, what do you suggest I replace it with after I send the Audi dealers' kids through the Ivy League ? Will it even last that long after all the warning lights ? Should I cut my losses, park it in a field, remove the plates and walk away ?

There's a lot to worry about here ! Is it even safe to have in my driveway over the weekend?
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For what its worth I have a 2011 q7 tdi with nearly 100,000 miles and it has been completely reliable. I drive to the summit of a mountain with it every school day which is a steep climb, no problems whatsoever. I don't tow with it though.
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Pivot, do you know the tongue weight on your 25? I'd be interested, for future reference, how it compares to my own, about 800lbs.
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We have different definitions of "small vehicle".
That is what makes the world go round differences of opinions

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Given that my Audi is just waiting to recycle metal shavings left over from the sloppy Czech factory workers (or the turbo shaft lubricator?) through the oil filter bypass and sandblast itself to death from the inside, what do you suggest I replace it with after I send the Audi dealers' kids through the Ivy League ? Will it even last that long after all the warning lights ? Should I cut my losses, park it in a field, remove the plates and walk away ?

There's a lot to worry about here ! Is it even safe to have in my driveway over the weekend?
What I'd reply would be merely irrelavent to you as you have rose coloured glasses on. You don't want the truth, can't handle the truth but wish to surround yourself with those that say "Yes sir, three bags full sir".

I wasn't commenting on your Audi but gave you real world impressions of VAG quality and parts cost.

FYI My boss is now leasing a Ford F150 after picking up his Touareg yesterday from the mechanics. He had to get new rotors, a new caliper, pads and $60,00 sensors. The total bill in his words was "It's two lease payments on the Ford". The lease payments on a 2015 F-150 with 40,000 kms yearly are $967.00.

He's had enough of VAG.

I'm out.
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The total bill in his words was "It's two lease payments on the Ford". The lease payments on a 2015 F-150 with 40,000 kms yearly are $967.00.
I'm out.
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Not bad compared to a guy I know who's bought new domestic pickup (brand not named to protect the innocent) and saw 10's of thousands of dollars of repairs in just a few years. Note he was towing at less than 70% of the tow rating.
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