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Old 03-14-2015, 06:27 PM   #29
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We bought the gas Q7 and would consider it again if they fix the Nav system. I have researched gas vs diesel and can find only one advantage to diesel which is torque. Their better fuel mileage is offset by increased fuel cost. They cost more to buy and service. They smell bad and some are noisy. I've decided on a used Ford F-150 with a 5.3 and 3.71 rear end. Haven't found one yet but I will eventually. I'm not concerned about having to go slow up hills. I live in SW Virginia and have been driving a gas Class C for 5 years. Going 35MPH up the Blue Ridge mountains is old hat and doesn't bother me a bit. I can't say the same for those stuck behind me but I do pull over and let them by when possible.
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Old 03-14-2015, 08:06 PM   #30
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Audi actually has a good reliability for a German vehicle, much better than Porsche or VW. And Q7 TDI is a good vehicle (third row seat, nice payload, refined interior, and great fuel economy). Still, its common place for some folks in the towing threads to recommend vehicles with questionable reliability as the "perfect tow vehicles", sometimes just based on an RV magazine article. Some of those vehicles break down often when taking you to grocery store, let alone towing, and are very expensive to repair.
And some make recommendations based on real world experience. Please remind us all how much of that you have. Oh yeah, I forgot...
Please, stop trolling these threads.
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:36 PM   #31
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:27 AM   #32
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And some make recommendations based on real world experience. Please remind us all how much of that you have. Oh yeah, I forgot...
Please, stop trolling these threads.
Yep, we all know in order to opine on reliability of a vehicle, you need decades of experience towing an Airstream. Makes perfect sense. Not sure why I missed it.

p.s. Please stop insulting me. If you do not have anything to add to this thread, you can just not post.
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:43 AM   #33
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We use our 2014 Touareg TDI (3.0 clean turbo diesel & 8 speed transmission) to tow our 25' International AS. It was setup by Can-Am and tows really well. We use the Eaz-Lift weight distribution hitch with two anti-sway bars.
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:44 AM   #34
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Just wait for the one ton diesel dually propride advocates to chime in as the only "safe" way to tow any sized airstream.
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:50 AM   #35
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Just wait for the one ton diesel dually propride advocates to chime in as the only "safe" way to tow any sized airstream.

Yeah - like that guy in response #8...

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Old 03-15-2015, 09:18 AM   #36
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We bought the gas Q7 and would consider it again if they fix the Nav system. I have researched gas vs diesel and can find only one advantage to diesel which is torque. Their better fuel mileage is offset by increased fuel cost. They cost more to buy and service. They smell bad and some are noisy. I've decided on a used Ford F-150 with a 5.3 and 3.71 rear end. Haven't found one yet but I will eventually. I'm not concerned about having to go slow up hills. I live in SW Virginia and have been driving a gas Class C for 5 years. Going 35MPH up the Blue Ridge mountains is old hat and doesn't bother me a bit. I can't say the same for those stuck behind me but I do pull over and let them by when possible.
Only a month of ownership:

I don't find the TDI Q7 smells bad. I'm getting 25+MPG highway. The engine loafs at 1300RPM while I'm on the highway.8spd keeps it between 1 and 2k 90% of the time. Stated service intervals are more than 2x what they are on my gas car, and up here in Canada, diesel is still 10% less than premium used by my car. So the 5700lbs SUV, is using 10% more fuel at 10% less and consting me no more to fuel than my 3400lbs car. Also I have over 600miles highway range AND 406lbsft of torque.

These things come off 3 year leases for half price or less. Even if I have the maintenance "nightmare" described, I'll be ahead of anyone who bought a new large pickup truck or Excursion size SUV. VAG has over 20 years in these small diesel engines. The turbo may crack one day, the manumatic dual clutch transmission may blow and fall out, and before any of this the vehicle may turn into an orange rusty husk that destroys my neighbours property values and has them run me out of town, but the diesel block itself is good for 500k mi or beyond.

It's an experiment, let's see what happens. I appreciate everyones feedback. Even Rostram and Isuzu.
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Old 03-15-2015, 09:22 AM   #37
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I have been towing with a 2011 Q7 TDI for the past 2 years. I already owned it when we bought our Airstream. After reading through all of these hitch threads and doing other reading I made the trip to see Andy at Can-Am and he installed a new hitch receiver that is reinforced for preventing twist when the weight distribution torque is applied. The set up is spot on and tows beautifully. If I were to replace it I would get another Q7 TDI. It is that good.
Thank you again for the response. If you don't mind my asking what kind of mileage are you getting towing the 25ft ?
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Only a month of ownership:

Stated service intervals are more than 2x what they are on my gas car, and up here in Canada, diesel is still 10% less than premium used by my car.

It's an experiment, let's see what happens. I appreciate everyones feedback. Even Rostram and Isuzu.
This rational is why my boss bought his Touareg and Jetta TDI.

However I do STRONGLY suggest you discount VAG's service schedule for oil changes and take it in at half the rate or 7,500kms versus 15,000kms, even just to change oil and oil filter and nothing else. The reason for his wife's turbo problems was metallic particles suspended in the oil chewed through the shaft of the turbo eventually leading to failure. The oil filter is suppose to remove these particles, but if the oil filter becomes saturated the oil filter goes to bypass mode then these particulates have free rein through your engine. As the old mechanics saying goes "You can pay me now or pay me a lot more later". Oil is cheap compared to new turbo, cats and filters.

VAG is also interested in the owners that lease, buy and return vehicles with in the first three or so years. To the owner that purchases an off lease vehicle out of warranty, you're their means to send their kids to Harvard.

Also having your brakes (noticed I wrote brakes as opposed to breaks) caliper sliders lubricated every time you replace winter to summer rims will negate having to buy new rotors and pads as the caliper can't move on the slider and causes the pad to remain in contact with the rotor.

The last time I gassed up my 3.5SE Altima 6 sp manual with premium at $116.9 per L, (the cheapest being 97.9) it was still cheaper than diesel at $117.9 per L. The fuel costs will be a wash but how you take care of your AUDI will dictate how much you loose in the future.

I also can't reccommend Krown rustproofing enough for reducing future repairs as I have Krowned my vehicles since new. My 03 Tracker LT 4wd will one day do great service to my daughter who is youger than the truck. I haven't replaced fuel or brake lines or had any electrical problems associated with salt getting into and corroding connections.

Talk to you local VAG tech and ask him what problems are prevalent with your vehicle and what preventative action you can take to mitigate future problems. The tech will be honest with you, the service manager though will state you have the best vehicle in the world.

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Old 03-15-2015, 09:57 AM   #39
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>I also can't reccommend Krown rustproofing enough for reducing future repairs as I have Krowned my vehicles since new.

see .... we agree on something. The waxys stuff, not the tar spray ... that will end your car.

My 10 year old Acura TSX went up on the lift a few months ago and the bottom of the car looks even cleaner than the top.

Diesel is a lubricant, Gasoline is a detergent, and the previous owner already broke the TDI in for me. My Q7 will get a new batch of synthetic oil (proably mobil 1 since i like their logo)every 10-12k miles, not before.

Since we're trading 3rd party stories rather than facts, the rumor was that since VW had no competition for diesel in cars for so long they cheapened the parts for a decade to the bone to pay for Veyron R&D. Whereas audi screwed up so bad in the 80s they had to overspend on parts to work through their bad reputation, and the Porsche group, well when you charge your customers 1000 bucks for an oil change, you do whatever you like.

100 posts ... I need to get a life !
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Yep, we all know in order to opine on reliability of a vehicle, you need decades of experience towing an Airstream. Makes perfect sense. Not sure why I missed it.

p.s. Please stop insulting me. If you do not have anything to add to this thread, you can just not post.
Then stop giving advice about something you have no experience with. You keep inserting yourself into these discussions about alternative tow vehicles without any experience of the vehicles being discussed. Many of us are trying to learn from those who do have practical, real world experience with these setups (a big thanks to those who have been generous with their experience and patient with their detractors). So, kindly stop insulting our intelligence with your inferred knowledge of all things towing! You don't see alternate tow vehicle proponents hijacking the big truck threads so how about extending the same courtesy. Don't like the discussions, ignore them.
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Since we're trading 3rd party stories rather than facts

100 posts ... I need to get a life !
Stated like a true AUDI owner.

If you need to get a life and not write about how great your vehicle is, then in the future on an AUDI forum complain on what has gone horribly wrong with your vehicle today.......Drive a Nissan.

This should appeal to your AUDI sense of humour (I did like the cop joke)

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Then stop giving advice about something you have no experience with. You keep inserting yourself into these discussions about alternative tow vehicles without any experience of the vehicles being discussed. Many of us are trying to learn from those who do have practical, real world experience with these setups (a big thanks to those who have been generous with their experience and patient with their detractors). So, kindly stop insulting our intelligence with your inferred knowledge of all things towing! You don't see alternate tow vehicle proponents hijacking the big truck threads so how about extending the same courtesy. Don't like the discussions, ignore them.
I do know a fair amount about cars and I will share my opinion, just like others are doing, on this forum. Not sure why you think your intelligence was insulted. Again, I think if you have nothing to add, you should just not post.
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