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Old 03-14-2015, 09:06 AM   #15
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I'm curious about the hitch reinforcement you are doing. Does the shop put a new sticker on the hitch stating the increased rating of the hitch? (Say for your Audi the rating goes from 660# to 1000#?). Does the invoice say the use of WDH is allowed after modification?
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Nothing has been done yet. This is a possible alternate tow vehicle when my Honda is elsewhere. I can post details here if and when I do this to the Q7.

> Does the invoice say the use of WDH is allowed after modification?

My used car dealer invoice does not mention this. Mostly it says I should show up with the money when I show up for the car.
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Nothing has been done yet. This is a possible alternate tow vehicle when my Honda is elsewhere. I can post details here if and when I do this to the Q7.

> Does the invoice say the use of WDH is allowed after modification?

My used car dealer invoice does not mention this. Mostly it says I should show up with the money when I show up for the car.
Thanks! I was curious to know if the hitch modification invoice specifies the new hitch rating and whether the use of WDH is OK after hitch mod. Seems you have not done the hitch mod yet. It would be great if you share this info if/when you do the hitch mod.
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:37 AM   #17
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I have been towing with a 2011 Q7 TDI for the past 2 years. I already owned it when we bought our Airstream. After reading through all of these hitch threads and doing other reading I made the trip to see Andy at Can-Am and he installed a new hitch receiver that is reinforced for preventing twist when the weight distribution torque is applied. The set up is spot on and tows beautifully. If I were to replace it I would get another Q7 TDI. It is that good.
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:41 AM   #18
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:42 AM   #19
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I have been towing with a 2011 Q7 TDI for the past 2 years. I already owned it when we bought our Airstream. After reading through all of these hitch threads and doing other reading I made the trip to see Andy at Can-Am and he installed a new hitch receiver that is reinforced for preventing twist when the weight distribution torque is applied. The set up is spot on and tows beautifully. If I were to replace it I would get another Q7 TDI. It is that good.
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Old 03-14-2015, 12:12 PM   #20
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Boy am I sorry I replied to timhortons! I got jumped on for answering his question with what I knew. In my opinion if they had nothing useful to contribute than their silence would have been appreciated.

In our case we have a motorhome and bought the Q7. Then we decided to buy a AS and looked into what was needed to tow it. Obviously, as any intelligent person would do, we first checked on the vehicles we already owned to see if they would work. No need to buy another vehicle just for towing if what we had would do the job. My original post just shared what I had learned. I will be much less interested in contributing in the future after this experience.

The following is my emails with Canamrv and represents all the information I have. Do with it what you will:

Dear CanAmRV,

We are looking to buy a 2007 AS 31 and we have a 2014 Audi Q7. (We got the Audi before we decided to buy the AS) We were going to buy a used F150 to tow the AS until we saw your site. Can we tow the AS with the Q7? What would we have to have you make modifications to the Q7 and if so what would that entail? The Audi manual says it can tow 6600 and a 660 hitch weight but that it cannot use an equalizing hitch. Apparently the receiver is not attached very well from what Im told.

Or what would you recommend for a TV?

Were new to the AS but have had a Class C for 5 years and are moving up, in our minds to the AS.

Thanks in advance for your advice,

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Dear Frank,

I had forwarded your inquiry to our towing specialist. Just in case you didn't receive this i'm forwarding you his response.

Best regards,

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Hi Frank

The Q7 is a wonderful tow vehicle for a 31' Airstream. We have outfit more than 175 Audis, VW Touaregs, and Porsche Cayennes to tow Airstreams. They are all essentially the same vehicle underneath. Weight-distribution hitches aren't used in Europe, hence the misinformation about not being able to use one here in North America. The factory receiver will not come off, but it may twist or flex due to torsional loads. Keep reading...

You will need the factory Class III hitch reinforced to be able to do this safely. This will prevent any twisting or flexing of the receiver and will spread the load over a greater area. I've attached a few pictures of a Touareg receiver that we've reinforced to illustrate. I added a post I wrote a while back for the Touareg owners' forum to answer a similar question.

I'm not sure where you're located. The only shops that do this work are Can-Am and a car restoration place in Los Angeles. We are approximately 2 hours east of Detroit, MI and 2.5 hours west of Buffalo, NY.

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Please don't get discouraged. Your comments are appreciated by those of us who wish to choose alternative tow vehicles. Jim


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Congrats on your purchase and I hope you have better luck than my boss with his TDI Touareg which has required almost $15,000 in service and repairs over the last three years including.....

Almost $2,000 for a new driveshaft after the hangar bearing cookied, as you just can't buy a new hangar bearing.

Then VW had to undo all they had done, including taking down the exhaust to replace the driveshaft, to replace the Urea heater sensor to the tune of almost $1,000 a month later.

New calipers, rotors and pads after calipers seized solid (twice).

Numerous services to try and fix limp home status as engine detects particulate filters are clogged. A VW tech actually suggested to him to go WOT on the highway and take the truck to 100mph to clean out filters. (explain that to the officer that's impounding your truck for racing).

He's just waiting for the $5,000+ bill to replace the particulate filters which he's due for anytime now.

Not to mention his wife's 2010 TDI Jetta that at four years and 200k kms lunched its turbo which then allowed oil to travel down the exhaust, trashing the catalytic converters and particulate filters all at once. JUST the parts to fix the car came to almost $7,000.00.

He will never buy another modern diesel again.

With the price of diesel compared to gas now and the added cost of diesel maintanance, it's not worth it, (a VW diesel techs word, not mine).

The one lesson he has learned from the experience is to ask for future maintanance service costs for a vehicle BEFORE he buys it.

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Congrats on your purchase and I hope you have better luck than my boss with his TDI Touareg
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We use our 2014 Touareg TDI (3.0 clean turbo diesel & 8 speed transmission) to tow our 25' International AS. It was setup by Can-Am and tows really well. We use the Eaz-Lift weight distribution hitch with two anti-sway bars.
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Boy am I sorry I replied to timhortons! I got jumped on for answering his question with what I knew. In my opinion if they had nothing useful to contribute than their silence would have been appreciated.



I will be much less interested in contributing in the future after this experience.



There are lots of opinions here - some express them better than others. Keep expressing yours :-)
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Boy am I sorry I replied to timhortons! I got jumped on for answering his question with what I knew.
Buddy.... Your post was most valuable. Please keep posting.
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Quite true, but if the Touareg is the lemon, what is his wife's 2010 Jetta TDI which did $7,000.00 in just parts damage to the motor?

That's a lot of lemonade for just one family.

Don't get me wrong I love VW's and in my family have had Super Beetles, a 411 and two Westfalia's, a 72 and 93. I also admire Audi's but have owned none.

That being said I also am a realist, and understand that when they work there're great, and when they don't.....it's bloody expensive, especially the modern diesels.

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Audi actually has a good reliability for a German vehicle, much better than Porsche or VW. And Q7 TDI is a good vehicle (third row seat, nice payload, refined interior, and great fuel economy). Still, its common place for some folks in the towing threads to recommend vehicles with questionable reliability as the "perfect tow vehicles", sometimes just based on an RV magazine article. Some of those vehicles break down often when taking you to grocery store, let alone towing, and are very expensive to repair.
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