17 F250 6.2 V8 fuel economy

[ShinyPete]

All-

It has been mentioned in this thread that the 6.2 runs on regular gas. Is that true aluma-body F250 owners? When we looked in '15 I thought the big gasser in the F250 required premium fuel..........

Just curious, not trying to add to the "my trucks better than yours" debate. I absolutely love the F150 MaxTow egoboost, but that body and interior in an F250 capacity gas engine truck has me thinkin...........

[giantfuton]

It runs on 87 octane just fine. I use 91 when towing to keep it cool though that is just the factory recommendation

GF

[Ferrellim]

Towing International 27 for 2 years average towing 10.5 mpg, not towing 11.5 to
13.5. Max speed 65mph.

[tjdonahoe]

Originally Posted by Countryboy59

Torque is measured at the crankshaft, and multiplied by the transmission and gearing. Power is power.

8 mpg at $2.30 a gallon = 13 mpg at $3.00 a gallon.

You are correct...that is why you don’t see any gas engines pulling trailers in the big trucks, they went away in the early 1970’s..

[sbowman]

Originally Posted by Ampman

Have the newer DEF diesels gotten any more reliable? Anybody got more than 100k on a 2014 and up? Been away almost a year and a half from the world of fleet diesel light duty trucks and they were all shop queens for the most part. Left me walking too many times to count.

Are you asking on any make that uses "DEF"?

Safe Travels

[Ampman]

Yes, any make. The Ford 6.0, 6.4 and 6.7 were always in the shop broke down for weeks at a time. The Dodges not so much but we had fewer of those due to load requirements. Last few years from 2011 to 2014 with the DEF were the most problematic. I would love a reliable diesel for the power but since I keep vehicles for a very long time the repair cost out of warranty has always been a deal breaker for me. That’s why I was asking if the last few years models have gotten any more reliable?

[tjdonahoe]

Originally Posted by pappy19

Way too many negatives with diesels vs the 6.2 gas engine. All been thrown out there before, but for you, I will list them again; $8000 initial cost of the diesel engine, and only worth it if you keep it to over 200,000 miles, huge maintenance costs with oil changes, filters and DFE crapola, more chance of bad fuel ruining pumps and injectors, huge costs of engine rebuilds/replacements, way less fuel stops vs gasoline, your wife hates to fill it up due to the diesel stink and having to wait 5 minutes for the bubbles to stop. I have more if you want to hear them, but I doubt it.

Yep they are just terrible, my last ram with 6.7 never been in the shop, at 10 years and 110,000 miles in front of a 30-31 Classic airstream, I traded for a new one....new one has 3.54 gears vs 3.73....20 empty and 13-14 with the as...oil changes are covered under a lifetime deal for $ 850...I don’t even have to get my hands dirty...lots of power, cruises loaded at about 1400 rpm at 65...my wife also likes them, even when she goes through Chicago wither the as.....ever notice there arent any big gas powered big trucks pulling trailers anymore? There is a reason for this....now I am not going to rebuild the engine or replace it....you must be thinking of the 6 liter ford that had so many problems, my son in law had to replace his on his welding truck with a reman , 9 years ago...to the tune of $ 18,000....I will keep my ram......Merry Christmas.....

[tjdonahoe]

Originally Posted by Ampman

Have the newer DEF diesels gotten any more reliable? Anybody got more than 100k on a 2014 and up? Been away almost a year and a half from the world of fleet diesel light duty trucks and they were all shop queens for the most part. Left me walking too many times to count.

My ram was never in the shop...10 years and 110,000 miles in front of a 30-31 Classic....my new one is doing fine also, but my 3406 E model has 1.4 million and the head has never been off...you learn how to drive them..

[Ampman]

Nice. I’ll catch up on the truck forums and see how the new ones are holding up. My old peeps from the working world tell me the DEF units up to 2014 are still shop queens. Not enough miles yet on the newer units yet to judge.

[JMynes]

Back on topic...
10ish towing. 13ish not towing.

[pappy19]

Tdonahoe
You Dodge boys must really feel insecure to lurk on Ford threads. I almost feel sorry for you. Why not start a Cummins thread, so you all can suck up to each other and leave us Ford people alone. That way you can talk about your terrible front ends, weak frames, lowsy transmissions, horrible starters and poor quality interiors.

[CRH]

All the rusty bedsides I see on the Dodges in my area are enough to make me not want one.

[Flht2k]

Now now. I don't knock Ford's Chevy or Rams. But if I hear one comment regarding resale of diesel, I'll have to drink a beer.

[tjdonahoe]

Originally Posted by pappy19

Tdonahoe
You Dodge boys must really feel insecure to lurk on Ford threads. I almost feel sorry for you. Why not start a Cummins thread, so you all can suck up to each other and leave us Ford people alone. That way you can talk about your terrible front ends, weak frames, lowsy transmissions, horrible starters and poor quality interiors.

...you should get updated and look around at what is out there, ram hasn’t had any tranny problems since 2007, when they came out withthe 6speed, the rest of your post is in your imagination, I have told you about the V10 I borrowed, it still reminds me of the 300 6....Cheers....

[tjdonahoe]

Originally Posted by Flht2k

Now now. I don't knock Ford's Chevy or Rams. But if I hear one comment regarding resale of diesel, I'll have to drink a beer.

Around here ,good ones dont stay on the lot, they have a good resale, but they are 4X4....

[Countryboy59]

Originally Posted by tjdonahoe

You are correct...that is why you don’t see any gas engines pulling trailers in the big trucks, they went away in the early 1970’s..

No it isn't. There's no comparison between those rigs and the small diesels in pickups.

[Countryboy59]

Originally Posted by ShinyPete

All-

It has been mentioned in this thread that the 6.2 runs on regular gas. Is that true aluma-body F250 owners? When we looked in '15 I thought the big gasser in the F250 required premium fuel..........

Just curious, not trying to add to the "my trucks better than yours" debate. I absolutely love the F150 MaxTow egoboost, but that body and interior in an F250 capacity gas engine truck has me thinkin...........

Regular. Premium is a scam.

[pappy19]

With the Mike's 5 Star programmer, you can get programs for 87,89 and 91 octane for economy, performance or towing. If economy is what you mostly want, one program would be 87/economy. Then when you will be towing, switch to 89/tow. Takes about 10 minutes to change programs. I have 3 different programs for my V10, but stay on 89/performance even when towing. I still gained 1 mpg over stock even with the performance program.

[sbowman]

Originally Posted by Ampman

Yes, any make. The Ford 6.0, 6.4 and 6.7 were always in the shop broke down for weeks at a time. The Dodges not so much but we had fewer of those due to load requirements. Last few years from 2011 to 2014 with the DEF were the most problematic. I would love a reliable diesel for the power but since I keep vehicles for a very long time the repair cost out of warranty has always been a deal breaker for me. That’s why I was asking if the last few years models have gotten any more reliable?

Long story short, was a ford guy for 40 years. Never had a diesel always big blocks. It seamed every time I start looking at ford diesel power plants there were major issues, just what I read. My son has a 2014 HD 3500 w/Cummins w/100k. This is his 2nd Cummins. All he has had to address is the water pump. Currently MOPAR has a recall on 2013 thru mid 2017 Cummins water pumps. My wife and I bought a 2016 HD 3500 6.7 Cummins, 4x4, 4 door, long bed , w/hard shell canopy, not a dully, w/30k GVW. Towing we get between 11 up to 17. Not towing we have gotten 22 plus. Pure comfort and drives like a dream. Pulls w/zero effort. We have had zero issues. We are hoping this is the last truck we buy.

Safe travels

[Countryboy59]

Originally Posted by tjdonahoe

Yep they are just terrible, my last ram with 6.7 never been in the shop, at 10 years and 110,000 miles in front of a 30-31 Classic airstream, I traded for a new one....new one has 3.54 gears vs 3.73....20 empty and 13-14 with the as...oil changes are covered under a lifetime deal for $ 850...I don’t even have to get my hands dirty...lots of power, cruises loaded at about 1400 rpm at 65...my wife also likes them, even when she goes through Chicago wither the as.....ever notice there arent any big gas powered big trucks pulling trailers anymore? There is a reason for this....now I am not going to rebuild the engine or replace it....you must be thinking of the 6 liter ford that had so many problems, my son in law had to replace his on his welding truck with a reman , 9 years ago...to the tune of $ 18,000....I will keep my ram......Merry Christmas.....

If you only put on 110,000 miles in 10 years that's one thing. I put that much on in 2 years. At 5 years I have 250,000 to 300,000 on the diesels and that's where you really start spending the money. I just give them to my son the mechanic and he can do the EGR, vacuum pumps, reluctors,, injectors, glow plugs etc etc etc. I would go broke maintaining a light truck diesel. I shudder to think of the little 6 cylinder ones. The kid says in light use they're not holding up to well.

The Cummins is better but the truck it's in doesn't hold up as well. We'll see how the gas truck does but I'm pushing 120,000 miles, should hit 150k this winter. Looking good so far. And it has as much power as my boss's Powerstroke.