View Poll Results: Would selling a VCD of Airstream footage from TV shows be legal?
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Yes it would be OK
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No, you will go to prison!!
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12-12-2003, 07:50 PM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Would this be legal?
I put the Hands on History video on my Airstream Sightings page, thanks to Uwe for sending it to me.
You can check it out here.
I was thinking of making a Video CD of all the different airstream footage that I have on my website complete with a menu, and the vintage ads, etc.... that would play in DVD players. That way anyone who wanted could see these videos at a good quality on their TV anytime they wanted.
I would want to cover my hosting, mailing, and media costs at about $10/per copy.
1. Would this be legal to do?
2. Would anyone want one?
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12-12-2003, 08:04 PM
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,936
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Put your affairs in order and wait for the fun police to arrive at your door step.
It is NOT legal to reproduce copyrighted material owned by others for sale - even if you are only breaking even. Protected media may be reproduced without permission for certian purposes e.g. news or educational but only in 30 second or smaller sections. All other uses you must obtain permission and work out lisencing issues.
How do you feel about stripes?
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12-12-2003, 08:11 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Round Rock
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2003
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As a professional photographer I am very sensitive to copyright issues. Even posting these videos on your web site is a violation of federal copyright law, but unlikely to get you in trouble because you're not posting for commercial purposes. The worst you're likely to get is a request to remove the materials.
As soon as you start charging or even distributing the materials on DVD you're far more likely to draw attention to your activities. Even if all you do is break even on distributing the videos and ads you open yourself to hefty lawsuits for copyright infringement.
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-fairuse.html
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12-12-2003, 08:47 PM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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I'll send you a file so you can bust out after they for sure try to lock you up.
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12-12-2003, 08:47 PM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
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It is illegal to copy and/or distribute intellectual property without the original copyright owner's specified permission even if you are doing so without personal gain. Not recommended at any price.
FF
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12-12-2003, 10:04 PM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,921
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Bummer
Just thought it would be a cool thing to do....
So, should I take the videos off the website then?
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12-12-2003, 10:10 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Round Rock
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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I agree it would be a cool thing to do, but the reality is you'd be violating federal copyright law. I can't advise you on keeping the videos on your web site, but if you do make sure they're MPEG videos and not WMV files. We Mac users might like to take a peek too.
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12-13-2003, 12:00 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Safari Tim,
Thanks for sharing, most interesting
Hart
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12-13-2003, 05:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 29' Sovereign
Savannah
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,478
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Wait until
Safari Tim
Janet asked...
Quote:
How do you feel about stripes?
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Does this mean that your A/S will have "stripes" as well??
ciao
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12-13-2003, 09:12 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs
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Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 2,311
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I am not trying to be a smartarse, but I have to ask this question.
I truly want to know the answer.
What is the deal with using RealPlayer and .ram multimedia files? They are the biggest pain. Every time I go to play one it says I need an update. Then they want you to pay for it. Well, not anymore, because I uninstalled Realplayer.
If it isn't an .mpg, .avi or .wmv it is, in my opinion a non standard format.
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12-13-2003, 09:14 AM
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4 Rivet Member
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Pick
I had to update too...but it was free
Hart
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12-13-2003, 09:26 AM
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2 Rivet Member
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Phtobitstream, what type of photogrphy do you do ??
I'm a portrait photographer myself (plus have rental property to support the toys) I have a home made web site, to see go to donnall.com
Oh, and yep, you can't even copy that stuff and give it away without getting into mucho trouble.
Don
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12-13-2003, 11:35 AM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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It is frustrating because all the links point you to the paid version. But they do have a free player, you just have to look for it.
The problem with posting an AVI or MPEG is the file size is huge and you can't stream it.
For example.
Hands On History file is:
AVI 6.25 Gig
MPEG 139 Meg
Real 3.5 Meg Streamable
I have experimented with wmv and just like the real one better. I guess MAC people can not see wmv either. I am not sure about Real.
-Tim
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Originally posted by Pick
What is the deal with using RealPlayer and .ram multimedia files? They are the biggest pain. Every time I go to play one it says I need an update. Then they want you to pay for it. Well, not anymore, because I uninstalled Realplayer.
If it isn't an .mpg, .avi or .wmv it is, in my opinion a non standard format.
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12-13-2003, 11:41 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Round Rock
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Don,
I do motorsports photography. Used to be a newspaper photographer, quit because of the low pay. Switched to technical writing then got back into photography full-time when the tech bust took my job away.
I'm retooling my web site right now, and should have the new design rolled out next month. As much as I don't want to do it, I'm going to have to post proofs for people to look at so they can order photos. I'll just make sure the proofs are too small to make decent prints, and have my copyright displayed prominently.
Tim, Quicktime is far away the best solution for posting movies, but then you get Windows people whining about installing Apple software on their computers.
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12-13-2003, 01:23 PM
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Retired.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Silvertwinkie
I'll send you a file so you can bust out after they for sure try to lock you up.
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Eric, would that be a computer file?
Terry
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