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Old 12-19-2002, 05:20 PM   #1
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Question What's your tow vehicle's rating?

Hi All,

I'm curious of how many folks tow with either a 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck/van. I'm betting myself that the 3/4 ton will have the most users. If you would be kind enough to poll your tow vehicle, I'd be greatful !

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Old 12-19-2002, 05:45 PM   #2
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Greetings John!

I have four tow vehicles that I use for different purposes.

1.) The all-purpose tow-vehicle is my 1999 GMC K2500 Suburban that I special ordered in December of 1997. It has the full 10,000 pound trailer towing package including the 7400 VORTEC V8 and 4.10 differentials. After 97,000 miles, it is one of the most pleasant vehicles that I have owned - - I fully expect this vehicle to go at least 350,000 miles before it becomes troublesome.

2.) Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre towcar. It is a 1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible with th 501 cubic inch V8 and a 6,000 pound trailering rating. It is an adequate match for the Minuet, but would struggle too much with the Overlander if any grades were to be encountered. If all goes well, this will be my tow vehicle teamed with the Minuet for the trip to the International Rally in Vermont next summer.

3.) Supplemental tow vehicle - - has proven its ability to handle either the Overlander or Minuet. 1965 Dodge Coronet 500 Convertible. It is equipped with the 383 cubic inch/335 horse power V8 with 3.73 differential and 727 Torqueflite automatic transmission. I have been unable to locate any definitive information regarding its tow rating. It has been equipped with a custom 4-row core radiator and auxiliary transmission oil cooler - - it was factory equipped with all of the other heavy duty features.

4.) Reserve tow vehicle - - rated at 5,000 pounds it is being kept in reserve for the Minuet. 1985 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royal Brougham Luxury Sedan. It was special ordered in January of 1985. The complete heavy duty trailering package was ordered including automatic level ride, touring suspension, HD cooling, HD alternator, and 3.23 posi-trac differential. (Fortunately, the luck of the draw was with me as it came equipped with the 307 cubic inch Oldsmobile V8 rather than the 305 cubic inch Chevrolet motor that had caused me inumerable problems in the car's predecessor.)

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Thats a "lot" of vehicles

Kevin,

I hope that you don't keep all of those car and trailers ....

IN THE FRONT YARD!

Always enjoy and benefit from your posts!

Thanks!

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Old 12-19-2002, 06:13 PM   #4
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Dam!!!

Kevin,

You'll be starting your on caravan pretty soon!! Good to see you have sure a strong interest in Rving.

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Old 12-19-2002, 08:29 PM   #6
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RE: Number of Tow Vehicles

The four vehicles listed are just the ones that I own that are capable of towing. I am afraid that selling a car doesn't come easy for me as I have six total cars in addition to my '64 Airstream Overlander and the '78 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre.

Fortunately, I have barn space for all of the cars on my family farm - - the frustrating thing is that the post and beam construction is such that there isn't enough clearance to store the Airstream - - the Argosy (without air conditioner) can clear the opening, but I don't know whether it will once the air conditioner is added.

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Old 12-20-2002, 08:04 AM   #7
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OMG!! All those people with half tons, better upgrade soon before they crash and burn!

Just kidding!

The "Big 3" keep blurring the model designations more and more. The GM 1500HD Crew Cab is really a 2500, the 2500HD is really a 3500. You can't get a 3500 single rear wheel anymore, it's a 2500HD. You can't get a 2500 Crew Cab because it's a 1500HD.

Dodge never offered a 3500 Single Rear Wheel, now they do.

I think they should do away the the 1500, 2500, and 3500 designations, (F-150, F-250, and F-350 for Ford) and just use the GVW ratings. Then my 3500 would become a "9200".

I am considering a Mack CH612, or Freightliner FL70 for my next truck. Before you start laughing me off the forum, stop by your local GM, Ford, or Dodge dealer and look at the sticker prices. It makes you wonder when you can find a pickup truck on the lot priced close to a new Corvette!

For under $20K, I can get a used Mack single axle tractor, with over 500,000 miles of life left in her. These trucks will get about the same mileage, or better than Duramax, PSD, or Cummins diesel in a pickup towing a heavy trailer. With air ride cabs and suspension, they ride almost like a standard pickup truck. While the average person, wouldn't or couldn't use this as a "daily driver", there are some fulltimers that do. I won't go on, as this topic has been widely covered on other RV websites. Just something I have been mulling around in my mind. I still have two years left on my current lease. Who knows, I like my current truck so much, I may just buy it at the end of the lease.
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Old 12-20-2002, 08:36 AM   #8
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Another GMC user......

2003 GMC 2500HD 4X4, 8.1, 3.73 rear end, Reese hitch. A sweet ride for the relatively-flat or modest hill country of Georgia, Alabama, north Florida.
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Old 12-20-2002, 09:10 AM   #9
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I tow my 25' 1978 tradewind with a 99 1/2 ton suburban, reese dual cam hitch with NO problems. I have over 100K mi on it and over 20K of those towing. Still haven't had any problems!

I am looking at a 31 sovereign and will probably pull that with my 1992 3/4 ton van.


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Since I am employed full time and have several other interests other than RVing. My use for towing is less than a full timer. And I have a car for commuting to work.

So my towing vehicle is a 1/2 ton full size van. It's towing capacity from the factory is 7500 #'s based on the axle and engine combo. I have added air shocks, trans cooler, a radiator fan, (mostly cause it's hot here and the incoming air to the radiator in a van is not the best) and a shift kit for firmer shifts. (There are mountains here!) I bought it used for $5000 in 1997 when it was 7 years old and it had 113,000 mile on it.

My guess is the A/S trailer weighs about 5000 #'s. However my boat weighs closer to 7000 #'s. Both are areodynamic and that helps lots when pulling.

I planned on a life expectancy of 5 years for my van and it now has 132,000 on it. I have also gotten married and acquired another car. So I am selling the 2nd car, and the van, and will be buying a 2000 Navigator. It has the towing capacity of 8100 or 8900#'s depending on 4X4 or 4x2. It will be used as a daily driver by my wife. Not sure what to call the Navigator. Is it a 3/4 ton?

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3/4 ton

i went with a 3/4 ton truck because i like to take my 1955 harley with me when i travel.

my trailer is listed at 6800# so if i add the harley, water and other gear i figure i'm at 8000#. that puts me at 80% of my trucks capacity.

the other benefit of having a truck (chev) of this size is the 4l80E tranny that allows me to tow in overdrive. i was never able to do this with a 1/2 ton and the 700r4 tranny.

my truck towing with the tow/haul switched on turns lower revs at 65+ mph than at 55 mph

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Old 12-20-2002, 04:34 PM   #12
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1/2 Chevy tranny

I tow with a 2000 Chevy K-1500 and I too use the tow-haul mode while towing, but this tranny isn't as strong as the 2500HD and I have to tow in 3rd gear. The owners manual says that you can tow in overdrive, but I've been told by the dealer and others that it wouldn't hold up. So I'm cranking out 2100RPM @ 55MPH.

But I still surprised myself with getting 13 MPG on the hwy while towing. Too bad I can't use the overdrive because I'm sure the mileage would be even better.

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Hey Pick:

I think you are right.

I was in Panama City Beach a few years ago and a young fellow around 75 pulled into the camp ground wuth a very old restored Kenworth single axle with his trailer mounted on the truck frame and faired in. (not an Airstream)

I was towing with a Ford F150 4.6 standard tranny with a 5.3 Diff.

It worked well for the towing I did which was about 2500 miles a year.
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Hi Action,

I have the 1/2 ton EXPY. The Navigator is the Lincoln's gussied up version of the Expedition. And you can set it up for greater towing capacities with engine and rear ends.

I bought mine with towing my '63 Globetrotter in mind. However I upgraded to a 25' Excella and now wish I had bought the 3/4 ton Suburban.

The 4.6 Expy pulls the 5000+ lb trailer OK on Georgia soil, but I know that getting into the hills will be a problem. Just don't know how long before I will make the purchase of the 3/4 ton.

Ford just doesn't have a good 3/4 SUV.... the Excursion has too much weight of it's own to pull around and is really big.

The Navigator is well appointed, but you may be disappointed in pulling 5500 to 6000 lbs with that shorter wheelbase.

Just some thoughts...

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