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Old 05-04-2017, 02:29 PM   #29
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Congratulations! Two suggestions:
Never move your AS with the door open, with the tow vehicle or the jack.
Limit what you purchase until you get some experience and know you want and
need it.

Good Luck!

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Old 05-04-2017, 02:38 PM   #30
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I'm also in the refrigerator/gas off camp when towing. One solution is ice packs - I have a half dozen plastic "blue ice" things that I use. I keep them in the freezer at home so that I can keep things cold as the fridge cools down at the start of a camping trip.

I use them to keep things cold while traveling and, lastly, when I transport any leftover food home at the end of a trip.

Also - the freezer tends to get cold really fast - sometimes I keep things in the freezer compartment at first until the refrigerator section gets cold enough.

You'll find out what works best for you.

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Old 05-04-2017, 02:52 PM   #31
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Yes, you got a lot of wonderful advise, take it relax have a good time, but take your time, be careful and get the 2 books they are available through Airstream life. You will get a lot of controvercial advise on this forum, people mean well but the truth is we all have our beliefs. Mine, I never use city water, I use my fresh water tank. I never put water in this tank unless I check it out first. By using my fresh water tank I know I do not have to depend on the gauge for my Grey and Black water tank, when my fresh water tank is empty there will still be room in both, so I do not need a pressure regulator. Just one man's opinion. As soon as possible make check lists and use them every time you hook up or set up. Check you owners manual for samples.
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Old 05-04-2017, 03:04 PM   #32
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a leatherman oht
a channel lock 7 piece ratchet screwdriver
a large ratcheting pair of pliers
2 biolite power lite minis
a spotlight flash light powerful enough to shine a beam out the side windows when looking for your camp site number
lots and lots of paper towels
lots and lots of wine
your leica
walkie talkies

look look and look again before driving
use a spotter when backing
move the stupid picnic table out the way before backing

happy trails
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Old 05-04-2017, 08:57 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by PandM View Post
Hi Friends--

My husband and I just bought a 25FB Flying Cloud...our first Airstream and first trailer. We're learning rather serendipitously about certain dos and don'ts. For example, a friend told me we should use a pressure regulator to avoid possible pressure spikes from a city water connection. No one at the dealer told us this. I actually found this site and joined when I checked online to verify the information.

So...what do we really need to know that no one has told us? You probably have a couple of ideas about things no one told you when you bought your first trailer. Would you share some insights about how to travel safely and take care of our new Airstream? For example, a couple of people have told us they leave the propane on when traveling to keep the fridge cold. I know that's not advisable, but does everyone do it anyway? What other kinds of things do we need to know?

Many thanks! Peggy

When arriving at a new camp site, put the stabilizers down LAST.

When leaving, put the stabilizers up first.

Despite KNOWING better, I don't know how many times I jacked the front with the tongue jack with the back stabilizers down.

Fighting yourself is not helpful.
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Old 05-04-2017, 10:36 PM   #34
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"Make your first trip close to home that way you can dash home if needed to get something major."


Our first trip out from home (Seattle area) was the AS rally last summer in Lewisburg, WVA, some 2.5K miles away. No problems --- there's always a Walmart nearby. And even if it is something major, the point of all of this, I believe, is "to deal with whatever comes up & enjoy the process." Don't sweat it. You may come to believe it's not that major after all.
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Old 05-04-2017, 10:48 PM   #35
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i forgot to mention the oxx coffeeboxx.
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Old 05-04-2017, 10:52 PM   #36
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One night we got in very late to our camp grounds due to a major accident on the road, When I size up this back in spot with lots of trees and a very narrow pad and being very tired I decided to just park at the ranger station and wait until day light.
The best thing I did that day, this site was for dry camping and I had reservation for full hookup.
The ranger took care of me and just to remind me to make the right decision when you have a long day in a new camp site
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:04 PM   #37
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Blue ice does not work in western states, when it's 104° outside it's 115° inside of my Airstream. We only travel with propane ON for the fridge.

If you don't it will take 2 days to get it cold enough to freeze anything.
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:25 AM   #38
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Run the fridge while towing. Vacations are too short to spend the whole time fighting food poisoning because you didn't keep the food in the refrigerator at a safe temperature. If a propane line were to rupture or become damaged while towing, the OPD valves in your tanks will trip the safety valve and shut off. If the flame in the fridge blows out, the fridge will automatically shut the flow of gas off as well. The likelihood of food spoiling and making you sick is about 100,000 times higher than the possibility of an explosion from a propane leak while underway. There are multiple safety features built into the propane system, don't be afraid to use it.
The best advice I can think of: Make a checklist for setup and tear down and USE IT! No matter how often you camp, there are a lot of steps to both. It's easy to overlook a simple step that can ruin an otherwise wonderful experience. Before ever firing up the tow vehicle, I always go over my list twice and check to make sure everything is secure. While stupid mistakes make for entertaining stories, they aren't so much fun to experience.
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:40 AM   #39
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Granted we have a smaller rig with smaller refrigerator.

We got 2 Yeti coolers. 45 for frozen with dry ice. Larger one for cold food.
Both of these will last forever and keep food at temperature. No worries about food spoilage or food poisoning.

Low tech, and 100% reliable.

We use the blue ice packs (can re-freeze in our AS freezer) with a small soft side cooler for day outings.

We did 10 day trip to/from Yellowstone last year. This worked perfectly.

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Old 05-05-2017, 06:41 AM   #40
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I realize there is a built in water pressure regulator, supposedly set to 65lbs. However, my local AS dealer tech said high pressure water hydrants can "test the limits of the built-in pressure valve" and eventually "break the sink valves."

His recommendation was to purchase a simple brass On/OFF valve (a little T shaped thing) and attach it to the end of the water hose by the trailer.

When hooking up to water, turn OFF that brass valve. Then slightly open your sink faucet(s) to to bleed out the air and leave it open just a little. Then turn on the water at the hydrant and slowly open the ON/OFF valve to let water flow in. Turn off your faucets once water starts trickling inside.

It seems like good logical preventative advice. Might not be necessary but I'm doing it heretofore.

Safe travels!
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:35 AM   #41
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The one's that AS use is at 45 psi. Can not take the risk, always have your own regulator hookup, they are very reasonable price.

We were at Lake Tahoe state park and their pressure was 80 psi and when I talk to the ranger he told me that people were taking the water regulators off when they left, not good. He came right over to our site and put one that could not remove by anyone.

We now have a Valterra Water Regulator and Pressure Gauge for RVs - Lead Free around $30, Regulates incoming water pressure to 40-50 psi.

Forgot to tell you that because of 80 psi at Tahoe it blew out our built-in regulator and had to have it replace, a $45 part and labor, ours was under warrantee w/AS. Talking to the AS Tec, he told me that the regulator was one of the most change parts as most people think that because they are in a RV camp grounds that things are ok, not so.
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Old 05-06-2017, 02:05 PM   #42
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I suggest you make your first trip close to home and spend the time reading the manuals that came with your unit. It can be a little boring but it is time well spent.

I use a pressure regulator at the hydrant and a filter at the trailer.

Many people seem to have difficulty with their Zip Dee awning. There is at least one video on the Airstream site about how to use it. Keep it well lubed--spray silicone only. As noted above take it down if the weather threatens. Zip Dee advises against using guys as they can cause the mounting points at the trailer to rip out.

The wheel lug nuts on your unit are probably of two pieces; a chrome cap over a steel nut. When the cap comes off (it will) you will need a 3/4" six point (I say again SIX point) socket to get the nut off and even that will feel "risky". Or you can change them all to solid nuts such as McGard 64010 (Amazon). If you follow the good advice about torqueing your wheels you may need the socket sooner than later. Re-torqueing after warranty brake work is how I learned about two piece nuts.

Carry enough leveling blocks to drive a non-flat wheel on to "jack" the flat. I've never had a flat, even to Alaska and back (on 16" Michelin LT tires) but... I had 12,000 trouble-free miles on the Goodyear Marathons that came on the trailer but others have not been as fortunate. At 12,000 my sidewalls were pretty wavy. We are totally anal about tire pressure. In addition to manual checks I installed TST pressure and temperature monitors and I carry a 12 volt compressor to correct before every move, if needed.

The comment about the supplied single-stage charger/converter being death to the batteries is to be believed. Progressive Dynamics makes a multi-stage "drop in" replacement that comes with excellent installation instructions.

If you're beginning to think that for what Airstream charges they should provide better components, join the club.

And speaking of clubs, join your local WBCCI chapter. You will meet nice people, have access to national caravans and local events, and receive the "Blue Beret" which lists what every chapter in the country is doing.

Good luck, have fun.

and one more thing: Remember the obvious, that your Airstream is wider than your tow vehicle. Especially in construction zones with narrower lanes and concrete barriers where you are concentrating on keeping out of the oncoming lane and maybe not thinking about what's on your right. My enlightenment came in Chattanooga where I notice my concern for oncoming was getting me within about 3" of tearing the side of the trailer off.

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