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Old 01-03-2007, 04:32 PM   #29
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mirrors mounted - WOW!

Hello all -

Wnet and mounted the mirrors on 12/23. Tried the compressor to blow the string through but the wire looms were/are too congested with wires already to make the compressor effective.

Did wind up disconnecting the looms from the body AND the door, to striaghten the wiring as much as possible. Then I used the household fish-tape to get through, then pulled a decent sized string through. Then attached the wires to the string and pulled them into place.

Wiring the lights and heat were straighforward. It was quite interesting to find out how the vehicle is assembled. Not nearlly as solid as it seems. Comes apart so easily and quickly - good stuff to know - but still a little wierd. I mean, I have worked on a lot of cars over many years and the Chevy, while a solid unit, is really just a lot of push/pressure fittings with 1 or 2 screws holding things together. Since I have taken the doors all apart once now, I guess I can do it again.

Noise, Vibration, and squeeks make me CRAZY in a vehicle, so the knowledge should help.

Back to the mirrors - they work GREAT!!!!

We pulled out on 12/27 using the new views out the back. It was great to be able to actually see around SilverToy. I didn't have to resort to "the Wiggle" on the road - you know the wiggle!? Could actually see all around her with no trouble. Then, when we wound up pulling into Silver City after dark, they were great to use for backing into our spot. Could see the trailer side, and the area down by the wheels - all in one. No adjusting back and forth. 1st time, straight in, PERFECT!

I've had 3 people ask me about the mirrors already, so I know that they do seem to stand out quite a bit.

They also made one of the bank/ATM drive-thru's interesting. Wound up with 1/2 inch clearance on each end of the truck.

All in all a great addition to the TV. $ well spent. I give them 2 thumbs up!

Happy New year to all - from SilverToy in Silver City!!!!

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Old 01-07-2007, 01:11 AM   #30
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Just went on our first trip 1420 miles, standard mirrors.

No issue with seeing.
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Old 01-07-2007, 07:00 AM   #31
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Towing with the Toyota Tundra means there are really limited options for trailer mirrors. We have an Argosy so we just open the front and back curtains and we can see right through the trailer for a great view of what's behind him. Got to love those Argosys.
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Old 01-07-2007, 07:26 AM   #32
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You might want to check out another thread that covers Tow-N-See mirrors quite extensively:

http://www.airforums.com/forum...towing+mirrors
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Old 01-07-2007, 11:44 PM   #33
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You think you know! But do really?

Lippets -

I agree with your comments about the 'standard' mirrors being OK. Mine were too. But after having a tire shred (didn't see it, in spite of constant checking) and many other instances of "Wishing" I had better views out back....

I upgraded to the Schefenecker mirrors. As other have said, they are major $'s, and they don't fit every day use for some folks (urban driving, etc) but then after just doing about 1K with them on, I will say, unequivicably!!!, that I have far better vision on all circumstances going on with SilverToy (provided you USE them!) than ever.

Would I go back to the standard mirrors? Never.

Do I have them? yes. They will go back on if/when I sell the TV. Assuming that the new owner would have no use of them - and I could re-use the SchM's with the new TV.

Seriously, if you have standard mirrors.... check out the heavy duty versions of your TV and see the mirrors they have - in use.... check out the daily towers in your town.... check out the mirrors of the heavy haulers.... ask them why they use what they use.... You'll see that more info is NEVER too much!!!

Upgrade. You'll be happy you did. I am. Your experience will likely be like mine, but may vary.

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Old 01-13-2007, 02:22 PM   #34
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My favorite mirrors, as far as seeing A LOT of what is behind me, are the OEM mirrors on my '84 Suburban.

The McKesh mirrors on my late model truck do what I want, but all the mirrors presented take a little getting used to. I find convex mirrors to be great for a general look while going down the road, and the the extended mirrors a necessity for backing up.

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Old 05-07-2008, 04:56 PM   #35
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So I've looked at the McKesh, See n' Say, all of 'em. But they lack a certain cashé, a vintage style that my old Jeep Wagoneer really demands from a towing mirror.

I really like these old school bolt-on mirrors, like these on the Dodge "Camper Special" that I spied down at TrailerWorks.

Lemmie know if anyone here knows if these (or something really similar) are still made, and where I can grab a set. Thanks!
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:12 PM   #36
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VELVAC Mirrors:

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Old 05-07-2008, 05:18 PM   #37
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So I've looked at the McKesh, See n' Say, all of 'em. But they lack a certain cashé, a vintage style that my old Jeep Wagoneer really demands from a towing mirror.

I really like these old school bolt-on mirrors, like these on the Dodge "Camper Special" that I spied down at TrailerWorks.

Lemmie know if anyone here knows if these (or something really similar) are still made, and where I can grab a set. Thanks!
Bredlo,

I have something similar on my PowerWagon, original equipment. I believe they are called Junior West Coast Mirrors. Put that in your browser and Google it.

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Old 05-07-2008, 05:24 PM   #38
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I had a set of the first ones, bought them at camping world and liked them,
at first, as I used them a second and third time, the suction cups would not hold and they would slip down to the bottom of the truck mirror or completely come loose,,,,,I took them back, they gladly exchanged them, the ones I have now have two rubber belts with a buckle type tightner and they are satisfactory.....Camping World was very cooperative!
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:01 PM   #39
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Amazing source of knowledge on here, thanks so much Rednax! I mean, that's the exact same one, and extends out 20".

Wkerfoot, those West Coast Jr.'s are an excellent alternative. I may just order both to see how they'd look and return whichever ones block too much of my peripheral view. I'm wary to pick based on a photo and start drilling holes in my doors, ya know?

Thanks!

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Old 05-07-2008, 06:19 PM   #40
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Amazing source of knowledge on here, thanks so much Rednax! I mean, that's the exact same one, and extends out 20".

Wkerfoot, those West Coast Jr.'s are an excellent alternative. I may just order both to see how they'd look and return whichever ones block too much of my peripheral view. I'm wary to pick based on a photo and start drilling holes in my doors, ya know?

Thanks!

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The mirrors do block your view, that is why the below eyeline mirrors became popular in the late 70's to early 80's. Now the manufacturers use large passenger car type mirrors and not TRUCK mirrors.

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Old 05-07-2008, 06:37 PM   #41
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The mirrors do block your view, that is why the below eyeline mirrors became popular in the late 70's to early 80's. Now the manufacturers use large passenger car type mirrors and not TRUCK mirrors.


They catch a LOT of air.

But . . that mirror frame is ideal to hang the left hand upon while cruising in order to "air out" (inflate) your shirt. Old timey air-conditioning. Handy way to wave at all and sundry, too.

(And, more importantly, one can attach convex mirrors as we do on big trucks to: show the roofline of the trailer, and to eliminate blind spots for moving to the right lane. A reflector or two -- amber forward -- and a lighted turn signal to let 'em know your a'comin', shoot, you'll be West Virginny in no time).
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:06 PM   #42
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all the way

The McKesh mirrors 2 sets just in case.
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