View Poll Results: Which is your favorite tow vehicle transmission?
Chev AT 110 48.03%
Chev Stick 2 0.87%
Dodge AT 27 11.79%
Dodge Stick 11 4.80%
Ford AT 66 28.82%
Ford Stick 13 5.68%
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Old 05-01-2004, 10:13 AM   #1
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How about a tow vehicle transmission poll?

I'm new here and not sure how to set up the poll...Which is your favorite tow vehicle transmission and why?
Chev AT

Chev Stick

Dodge AT

Dodge Stick

Ford AT

Ford Stick
If you have one that is your least favorite please post in thread....

Help....
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Old 05-01-2004, 10:33 AM   #2
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I'll be happy to help.

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Old 05-04-2004, 08:29 AM   #3
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Anyone have extremely bad problems from trans?

I've always been pretty lucky with my choices, and the last 3 in diesels- a Chev AT, a Ford C6 and currently a Ford 5 speed- never presented a problem.

I've heard a lot of bad things about the Dodge trans- the AT is supposed to break quickly and the 5 speed has a nut that is supposed to loosen and needs to be loc tited back on the main shaft.

Anyone have opposing or corresponding views?
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Old 09-30-2004, 03:19 PM   #4
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Very correct on the Dodge

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I've always been pretty lucky with my choices, and the last 3 in diesels- a Chev AT, a Ford C6 and currently a Ford 5 speed- never presented a problem.

I've heard a lot of bad things about the Dodge trans- the AT is supposed to break quickly and the 5 speed has a nut that is supposed to loosen and needs to be loc tited back on the main shaft.

Anyone have opposing or corresponding views?
Your observation on the Dodge is correct. Too bad I didn't know enough about it last year.

We purchased a Dodge Ram Quad Cab December of 03 (it was an 04 model). We bought it specifically with our pending Airstream purchase in mind. One month and a few days into owning the vehicle, having a little over 2000 miles on it, the transmission literally shredded itself. The dealership informed me when they opened up the transmission shards of metal actually fell out. A new transmission was put in, but I don't have high levels of faith in it.

July of this year while working a contract in WV my exhast manifold began to warp. The dealership near me in WV diagnosed the problem, but suggested I could bring it back to NH (home) to fix it. When I finally returned home with my Airstream and Dodge I brought the truck into the local dealership. As it turned out several bolts were not securly tightened from the initial build of the Dodge (the dealership said this outright). So warping occurred where there was open space due to the improperly fit bolts. Leaves me to wonder if the truck was built at the end of the day on a Friday or a Monday morning????

Seeing the poll so far I'm glad to know that the favorite vehicles are indeed not Dodges! Unfortunately we own ours outright, and can't afford to take the financial consequences of swapping for another vehicle so quickly. Each time I roll out with our Airstream I wonder if we'll be calling for service somewhere along the road thanks to the Dodge. At least we love our Airstream!
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Old 09-30-2004, 03:30 PM   #5
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If you're gonna go diesel, the Allision that is in the Chevy pickup line is by a wide margin, the best on on the planet. Chevy also has the 4L80E which also is a fairly stout transmission. It can be found on the Silverado pickup line as well as the 3/4 ton Suburbans. Unfort, the diesel and/or Allision trans is only avail on the 3/4 ton pickups (and commerical trucks).

Heck, I've also pounded the heck out of a GM 4L60E, taking it where no 4L60E transmission could or should have gone and it took the punishment and asked for seconds.

Of course, I maintain the heck out of our vehicles, so that too could be a reason why as well.

Anyway, my vote is a GM trans (or Allision availbile on certain GM trucks) every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Rich, do you have a 3/4 ton truck? I see it's a quad cab, but I am unsure if it is a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton. If it's a 3/4 ton, that is a total shame. That trans should have gone the distance. If it's a half ton, I still can't see it shreading, but I could understand it not liking loads...kind of like the 4L60E compared to the 4L80E.
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I've heard a lot of bad things about the Dodge trans- the AT is supposed to break quickly. Anyone have opposing or corresponding views?
I can attest to that. Dodge 518 transmission, the converter self-destructed and took the rest of the trans. with it.
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Plenty of room for you ex-Dodge folks over here in the GM pool. Come on in...waters great!
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Dodges, et al

My last Dodge product ended up with the AT full of metal chips. I just had them put it back together and traded it on a Chevy. I have had exceptionally good luck with Chevy ATs.

Wish the Allison had been on the poll as a separate item. It is head and shoulders above the rest.
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By the way

Did anyone else see the announcement that GM and Ford are jointly designing the next-generation AT? It will be a heavy-duty 6 speed and appear in the products of both companies. It is to handle the torque of the next-generation of turbo-diesels; i.e. over 600 foot pounds. The current Allison in light trucks is limited to 520 foot pounds in first and fifth gears.
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The current Allison in light trucks is limited to 520 foot pounds in first and fifth gears.
John, if your so inclined, a company here in Florida, called Suncoast, can rebuild an Allison 1000 and guarantee it for "unlimited" torque and power. They replace all the clutch plates with beefier ones. I think the cost is around $4300.
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John, if your so inclined, a company here in Florida, called Suncoast, can rebuild an Allison 1000 and guarantee it for "unlimited" torque and power. They replace all the clutch plates with beefier ones. I think the cost is around $4300.
My Durmax puts out 520# of torque, so the Allison is perfect as is. For my 25 Classic, my current power is more than enough. I haven't encountered a major highway grade yet that I can't pull in 4th (direct( gear and often I run for hours never out of overdrive.

The current Duramax limits engine torque in first and fifth to 520# to protect the transmission. It puts out 590# in 2nd through 4th. I'm sure that if the market demands, GM will beef up the clutch plates, but right now I wouldn't pay anything for more power and lose my 200,000 mile warrenty on the Allison.

BTW, the Banks and other top line power enhancers are designed to work within the Allison limitations.
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Old 02-10-2007, 09:26 PM   #12
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I don't see it on the list, but my money is on:

Fuller T-36, five speed fully sychronized, w/compound low.
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Excella CM ,your right on the money there ,and its the most heavy duty
cast iron case transmission over all .I run the T34 overdrive ,but like the ratio
spread of the T35 and T36 trannys.These things are HUGE trannys and
very strong .The T35 and T36 came in IH chassis school bus and heavy truck
applications .No one builds one that compares so far as I have ever seen .
Fuller Truck transmissions are very heavy duty units ,but thats why IH used
them .The new venture 5 speed trans that was very popular is small by comparison ,and a T 98 4 speed is tiny.

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I used a 92 dodge cummins 5 speed stick for 160k miles went for a 6 speed stick on the new 2006 Cummins. So far so good, never had a moments trouble with the transmission or clutch.
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