View Poll Results: Model years experiencing ceiling material failures.
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1987 or earlier
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3.23% |
1988-1990
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1991-1993
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3.23% |
1994-1997
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72.58% |
1998-2000
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1.61% |
2001-to current
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17.74% |
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03-07-2006, 07:57 AM
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2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
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Headliner failure
How many of you have experienced the dreaded headliner failure in your Airstream? We are talking about the situation where the headliner detaches either from the trailer ceiling or where the ceiling material detaches from its backer. Take the poll (above) and record the model year of your trailer if you have this problem.
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Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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03-07-2006, 08:05 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1996 28' Excella
Okemos
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 305
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Hi Jack,
What poll?
Yes we have the dreaded headliner droop. It appeared when the temps got really cold. I am waiting for warm weather when the vinyl is more stretchy to attack the problem. 1996 28' Excella.
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Dave
Okemos, MI
T.V.:'05 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 Quad Cab Cummins
AIR#2276
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03-07-2006, 09:42 AM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,164
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One out of three failed
Both of my Classics (2003, 2005) have been OK.
My 2003 International 22 had a fuzzy cloth headliner that partially fell down over the front bedroom area. I pulled down the plastic bow at the seam and spreayed above the headliner with 3M spray adhesive. It then stayed up fine as long as I owned the trailer. The current owners told me that the headliner later sagged in the rear, over the galley.
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John W. Irwin
2018 Interstate GT, "Sabre-Dog V"
WBCCI #9632
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03-07-2006, 11:31 AM
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Administrator
1961 16' Bambi
Dallas
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,025
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sander17
Hi Jack,
What poll?
Yes we have the dreaded headliner droop. It appeared when the temps got really cold. I am waiting for warm weather when the vinyl is more stretchy to attack the problem. 1996 28' Excella.
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The poll is located at the top of this discussion...
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03-08-2006, 06:39 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1996 28' Excella
Okemos
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 305
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy R
The poll is located at the top of this discussion...
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Andy,
The poll did not appear yesterday at 10 am, but it is there today, so I voted.
Just one of those non-reproducible mysteries of the world wide web and various browsers.
Thanks for checking on it.
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Dave
Okemos, MI
T.V.:'05 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 Quad Cab Cummins
AIR#2276
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03-08-2006, 07:24 AM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sander17
Andy,
The poll did not appear yesterday at 10 am, but it is there today, so I voted.
Just one of those non-reproducible mysteries of the world wide web and various browsers.
Thanks for checking on it.
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Interesting since the poll was there as soon as I created this thread. I'm not sure what happened on your side but I saw it as soon as the thread was created....hmmm...yes one of those mysteries..
Jack
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Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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03-09-2006, 06:34 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1995 34' Excella
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8
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Headliner Failure
Folks,
There is another string started regarding this same issue. If you type in ceiling under the search than you will find it. Several folks have also experienced this problem. Frustrating that AS won't do anything about it. Appears that this has affected models through the 90's and early 2000's. I even found a couple folks who have late 1980 models who have experienced this problem. One member on the other string stated that the Fed's required AS to use a water base adhesive in the 90's and that was the reason for the falling ceiling.
I actually contacted AS and they won 't do anything about it. I was told that when they first found out about it they did offer some assistance in repairing them but no longer offer that. If anyone would like to see the coorespondence I've had with AS just let me know and I will forward them to you.
Rich
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03-09-2006, 07:05 AM
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We can tow it!
1996 28' Excella
Where the water tastes like wine
, Michigan
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,625
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Good poll!
Thanks Jack for starting the poll, it is interesting to see the total numbers of folks with the headliner problem. Glad to know we're not the only ones dealing with the issue. It is nice to look at the creative ideas folks have to deal with it in other threads, this thread is useful in itself to get an idea of stats.
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03-09-2006, 08:07 AM
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2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tin sista
Thanks Jack for starting the poll, it is interesting to see the total numbers of folks with the headliner problem. Glad to know we're not the only ones dealing with the issue. It is nice to look at the creative ideas folks have to deal with it in other threads, this thread is useful in itself to get an idea of stats.
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You're welcome. I've seen enough of these trailers and complaints to know that there definitely is an issue here. Trailers in that mid 90's range shouldn't have falling ceilings and that to me smells more like a product defect than an individual manufacturing problem that affects a trailer here and there.
While I can't speak to whether this poll will help any of you in getting a resolution with Airstream, my instinct says that if we get some significant numbers here, it cant hurt you in your efforts.
Regards,
Jack
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Jack Canavera
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'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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03-09-2006, 09:31 AM
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Remember Burma Shave!
2006 19' Safari
2000 25' Safari
1985 25' Sovereign
Fort Myers
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Trust?
... to be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use ... SURE!
... no warranty with respects to its quality or performance. ...
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"... there is nothing you can't fix yourself ...
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03-09-2006, 10:08 AM
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2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by driftwood
... to be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use ... SURE!
... no warranty with respects to its quality or performance. ...
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Hey that's the old warranty. I'm pretty sure most of the folks who own the years in question didn't receive this one. Isn't that warranty part of the Byam owned era trailers?
Jack
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Jack Canavera
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05-05-2006, 04:42 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 26' Cruiser/Overlander
1967 17' Caravel
Newport
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We have friends who bought a new Classic late last year and there is a place in their liner (wallcovering?)that measures about 8 to 10 inches diameter which is detached. It is not actually on the ceiling, but on the curve of the wall just above the bed, curbside. Guess there is nothing they can have done. It's not bad yet, you have to push on it to actually see that it is detached. We'll have to keep an eye on it.
RG
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05-05-2006, 05:48 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1957 30' Sovereign of the Road
1959 28' Ambassador
1949 24' Limited
Peru
, New York
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My 59 Ambassador International still has it's original Zolatone ceiling paint in great shape! 47 years..................I guess Wally did know a thing or two about quality.
Colin
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05-05-2006, 07:35 AM
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2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rgesch
We have friends who bought a new Classic late last year and there is a place in their liner (wallcovering?)that measures about 8 to 10 inches diameter which is detached. It is not actually on the ceiling, but on the curve of the wall just above the bed, curbside. Guess there is nothing they can have done. It's not bad yet, you have to push on it to actually see that it is detached. We'll have to keep an eye on it.
RG
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Well if it's under warranty, I'd advise them that they should get this taken care of now....fix it before it gets bad and the solution to repair the situation gets more complex.
Jack
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Jack Canavera
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05-06-2006, 06:07 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 26' Cruiser/Overlander
1967 17' Caravel
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I'll have to let them know, although after readind these threads I'm not too sure what they would actually do for them. There is also some mild discoloration from condensation which seems to be of more concern to them. Maybe that would be incentive enough to get it taken care of.
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05-08-2006, 07:56 AM
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2004 30' Classic Slideout
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rgesch
I'll have to let them know, although after readind these threads I'm not too sure what they would actually do for them. There is also some mild discoloration from condensation which seems to be of more concern to them. Maybe that would be incentive enough to get it taken care of.
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I'm not sure either but as more detaches the heavier the pull gets. So the fix to take care of a small area may actually keep this problem from spreading. If there is discoloration, then maybe the problem is a leak?
Jack
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Jack Canavera
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AIR #56 S/OS#15
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05-08-2006, 08:00 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 26' Cruiser/Overlander
1967 17' Caravel
Newport
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcanavera
If there is discoloration, then maybe the problem is a leak?
Jack
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No. they lived in if for several months this winter and it was a rather damp winter here... condensation.
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07-06-2012, 08:18 PM
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New Member
1995 34' Excella
Pembroke Pines
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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1995
1995 Excella, Headliner came off 9 years ago
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