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Old 01-29-2007, 02:25 PM   #99
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I called the factory and asked if I could special order the Safari 30' Bunk with the CCD/Classic windows nearly two and a half years ago and was told no. They wanted to keep the Safari line separate from the CCD/Classic line to "Preserve the investment that those customers had made." It was only about four months later that the Safari 25' FB SE was introduced. So much for protecting those customer's investments!

To change them out now runs about $700 per window. My 30' Safari has seven windows on the sides. That would cost nearly $5000 to replace them. More than I want to spend out of pocket. But I probably would have considered it if I could have ordered them at a lower cost (CCD/Classic window minus the cost of the Hehr windows) and rolled the cost into the financing.
I hear ya...I was in the same boat.

Who quoted you the $700 per window? That was an installed price? I have 7 windows total and would consider it myself......
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Old 01-29-2007, 03:26 PM   #100
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I hear ya...I was in the same boat.

Who quoted you the $700 per window? That was an installed price? I have 7 windows total and would consider it myself......
Yes, that was the installed price Rich Luhr paid to have one put over his dinette table in his 30' Bunk. You might get a discount if you have all of them replaced at one time, I don't know. I believe the Vista View he had installed in his bedroom was less than $300, IIRC.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:05 PM   #101
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I agree, the lock on our '04 was an issue. I took it apart after I first got it and placed some white lithum grease on the mechs....I haven't had an issue since (now watch, I jinxed myself...next time I go to the trailer, I'll be locked out. ). This has happened to a number of owners.....but I don't know if I've heard it much past the '04 build year.
Is this problem with the dead bolt or the main lock? I had talked with some folks that were in their AS full time for 7 years and they showed me an eraser they put in the combination door lock to keep the dead bolt from auto locking. I told them my '06 AS had moved the dead bolt and it was a seperate lock now. Will I still have a problem with the main lock auto locking?
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:14 PM   #102
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$300 for an aftermarket Vista View?? That's not bad!

As for the lock, the deadbolt will not auto lock, nor will the main lock unless you slide the lock on it. My lube was done on the deadbolt because it was binding...but that stopped after the lube....annoying? You bet, but fixed it.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:20 PM   #103
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Valid Door Lock Problem...

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Ahem....how about improving the door lock system? /// Massive Snip ///
wow ms. babe good post.

I have heard and know at least a dozen people with 2005 AS any models where the door "locks" the owner out. look at the design of the door locks. it's a disaster. after seeing folks "break into the galley skylight" in death valley to locksmiths being called hours away to a rally, i carry a wrist key ring w/ door keys and a hidden key box OUTSIDE the trailer.

love to hear more stories about this.

it is a problem, with key in pocket, "try locking yourself out". it's really easy.

kevin

quick clerification - i own a 2005 CCD, i can only speak to this lock design in the entry door. i have however spoken to Safari owners who have had the same problem. it may be in other years. check yours. it's the little black lever that swings on the inside of the door (i'm not a lock guy, so someone perhaps can explain it better than me). see for yourself. k.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:31 PM   #104
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I guess anythings possible. I've had this lock mech since my 2003 Bambi and really haven't had an issue with it. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I've never personally felt it locks too easily unless I slid the lock on the main unit.

Now, leaving the door open when you hear the furnace go on....been guilty of that one, but caught it as it first turned on.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:45 PM   #105
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I guess anythings possible. I've had this lock mech since my 2003 Bambi and really haven't had an issue with it. Not to say it couldn't happen
mr. winkie,

i love you. your the most prolific poster i have ever seen. ever. and i love post. good post. and you give it. how on earth could you have a door lock problem, you never leave the trailer... unless you post someplace else and then go back to the trailer, then again i'm assuming which i should never do, because then i'm always wrong, which in this case i probably am, but maybe not.

i love you, in a cowboy friendly way, really i do,

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Old 01-30-2007, 09:32 PM   #106
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mr. winkie,

i love you. your the most prolific poster i have ever seen. ever. and i love post. good post. and you give it. how on earth could you have a door lock problem, you never leave the trailer... unless you post someplace else and then go back to the trailer, then again i'm assuming which i should never do, because then i'm always wrong, which in this case i probably am, but maybe not.

i love you, in a cowboy friendly way, really i do,

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HEY!!!!

This is a family rated site........................let's keep it G rated .

And what exactly IS 'a cowboy friendly way' ??????
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Old 01-30-2007, 09:35 PM   #107
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HEY!!!!

This is a family rated site........................let's keep it G rated .

And what exactly IS 'a cowboy friendly way' ??????
mr. lew,

that means were together, but not together...

kevbo

ps any explanation on my lock whine? i know you give good explanation...
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:01 AM   #108
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Door lock problem

This is a problem that I believe should be addressed by Airstream.

Whenever I leave my terra firma home I don't have to worry about being locked out unless I 'use' my doorkey to personally lock it. I have many places to 'hide' a key as well.

When I'm travelling, I only have one place to hide a spare and that is somewhere ON the unit itself. I don't think that it's secure...a thief would only have to look in a few places and 'find' it...why should I risk my investment in order to deal with a problem that is inherent in the design?

I'm not happy with the thought that I would have to have a key around my neck or dangling on a wristband every moment like just taking trash out...or to take a quick snapshot!

Sure I suppose I'll do what I can and hide the key in my propane tank area like everybody says to do...I'll feel 'real' secure with that. Everybody knows where it will be!

Thanks. I'm STILL not happy!
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:09 AM   #109
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This is a problem that I believe should be addressed by Airstream. Thanks. I'm STILL not happy!
whoa ms. babee,

best leave the hostility to a professional, like me.

it's a problem, i agree, i'll carry your key,

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Old 01-31-2007, 12:10 AM   #110
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The quality issues while valid, are another thread. As for the double doors, they did in the 90's! Here's what I'm talking about. Now isn't that nice?
A good dealer can install a second door.

We frequently do it, even back to the early 70's center bath models.

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Old 01-31-2007, 01:58 AM   #111
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Since the shine has worn off a little, I guess I can bitch a little and I doubt this hasn't been mentioned before, but........

One thing I think really needs to be tightened up is the enormous holes opened up to get a 2" waste line or a couple 1/2" water lines in and then left open, WIDE open !

I think 1/2 my heating problem was fighting all the drafts. My bathroom is ( was ? we'll see ) FREEZING ! A direct open shot from the basement storage compartment to the bath through the bedroom via a 10" X 6" hole cut to accommodate a 2" waste line. Tch, tch, Sa-loppy work.

Doesn't it get cold in Ohio ?

I spent 5 hours tonight closing up 3 bad ones under the bed. Good thing they don't show, 'cause my work looks pretty schlocky and I ain't a bum. Rubber kneeling pads, glue and duck tape to hold the patch in place, a real bugga working through a 3 1/2" hole. I still got a couple more and they are gonna be real stinkas to get to, but I can feel a difference already.

I had a chance to inspect some new rigs on a lot recently and they are all the same. Unbelievable.......
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:36 AM   #112
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Product Improvement Whine...

i like my whine white. my mom always said it was better for your blood. while on the subject of product improvement, i think that, really, the airstream folks could make the interiors more suitable for decoration. after all, look at us. we have nothing much to do but drive around, we don't like SOB's, and were full of raging sugestions...

so please make the interior more suitable for decoration.

as noted below, "my problem". i'm disapointed in AS, for not thinking this through. crushed actually. the mother company never does anything correctly.

sincerely,

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