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Old 06-09-2002, 04:35 PM   #15
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First trip, 2003 International AS

We just returned from a really nice first trip to shakedown our new International AS trailer. It was just about a 200 mile round trip to the Kerrville Folk Music Festival with two nights at a KOA. The route was through the Texas Hill Country, with lots of ups and downs. My towing mileage was about 12 MPG, which I consider very good over these roads. I haven't had much, if any better miledage towing two lighter trailers over the same route. I currently tow with a 5.3L 2001 Silverado 4wd.

A few minor glitches:

1. The medicine cabinet was held shut only by a dime-size dot of velcro. I had already replaced this with a 3" veldro strip, but the cabinet still dumped its contents twice. A mechanical latch goes on before the next trip.

2. Even though the route was fairly smooth, two items bounced off the lazy Susan pantry and were very hard to retrieve. I suspected this might happen and I already had designed a "fix". That will go on before the next trip of any length.

3. I had minor refrigerator problems. The 110 volt mode doesn't cool well at all and the propane mode was still freezing things with the thermostat turned clear down to 2.

4. Spice containers bounce out of the spice rack because the plastic angle that forms the side is far too low. This happens every time I move the trailer.

Other than these several glitches, we found the trailer to be totally agreeable to live in and a joy to tow.
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Old 06-09-2002, 06:09 PM   #16
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RE:First trip, 2003 International AS

Hi John,
First, Congrats on the new unit~!! I wish you and, the D/W well!
A few thoughts:
Maybe your frig needed just what you gave it..'A shakedown'. To get those ammonia crystals back down..
Just wondering? Did you have anything in it for the trip?? I know it's a silly question but..Someone more experiences than I, may suggest takin a look at the owner's manual to see if there's any adjustments?? Likw to hear what you come up with for this one.
The spice thingie is an easy cure..perhaps, lol..What we do is fill the void with table napkins and, dish towels..That way, it holds the stuff in place. Same with the medi cabinet.
Sounds like your trip was a terrific success~!
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Old 06-09-2002, 06:33 PM   #17
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Thanks for the advice

The fridge was about half full for the trip, but the freezer compartment was almost empty. Next time that I bring the trailer home to get ready for a trip, I'll put in an accuate thermometer and see if the flame cuts back at about the right temperature. It was in the 90s outside this weekend, so I certainly have plenty of cooling power on propane.

I don't know why it didn't cool decently on AC power. That's another thing to measure when I bring it home next time. Covenants don't allow me to keep the trailer here at the house.

Good idea on the spice rack. That'll save me from inventing some hardware fix (we engineers always miss the obvious).

The medicine cabinet was almost empty and still came open. All that was inside was some disposable razors, some little hotel packets of shampoo, etc., and a stick of deodorant. The way the door is built, it just doesn't seat well enough against the velcro to make a good bond. The door will have to have a mechanical lock to keep it from swinging open and possibly tearing off and/or damaging wherever it strikes against.
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Old 06-21-2002, 08:00 AM   #18
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Situation well in hand

I posted this elsewhere, buy I'll repost it here near the original gripes.

My fridge problem was quite simple. The temperature knob is apparently misaligned with the thermostat somehow. If I turn the knob too far toward cold, the cooling shuts off. Now that I know where to set the knob, the fridge works fine and I see no reason to have it fixed. On my last trip, in the mid 90's, the box worked just fine with the temperature knob set between 1 and 2. Temp inside was in the mid 30s.

Stuffing the dishtowel in above the spices kept them nicely in the rack. Thanks towner7!

The mechanical latch I added on the medicine cabinet door worked like a charm.

The plastic shield I added to the Lazy-Susan pantry kept everything nicely in place. No more jamming my hand underneath to retrieve unseen lost items. This is something Airstream really needs to fix. The Lazy-Susan could easily be jammed closed by something hard and there is absolutely no way to get a hand in there to free it. I was lucky that the lost items were pastries in baggies that couldn't jam anything.

Right now, after two short break-in trips, I can claim 100% satisfaction with the operation of everything in the trailer.
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Old 06-26-2002, 01:47 PM   #19
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I checked the CCD Design Airstream out at Traveland Irvine recently and was very impressed by the design, however found the execution and quality very very poor. Sharp edges on the interior aluminum panels, protruding rivet heads, sliding doors that worked very poorly, and a room divider that was already broken, in a demo trailer. Disappointing to say the least. We own a 71 Tradewind that is still quite functional, after 30 years.This new one we saw seemed fragile, to say the least.
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I think the Deam Airstreams are awesome! It's about time someone moved past the oak wood and nubby upholstery that has been ubiquitous in RVs. This medium seems to be one of the last touched by a true sense of style and design.

Although we are still light-years behind the Europeans in style sense and how it plays a part in our everyday life, we have certainly made strides (e.g., Phillippe Starck and Michael Graves designing for Target). While it's not everyones cup of tea, in order to continue to attact a younger client-base, it is necessary to offer these options to those that are so savvy about design.

http://www.time.com/time/europe/maga...26/design.html
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This medium seems to be one of the last touched by a true sense of style and design.
I totally agree with you, adding one thing futher to your statement: Function~!!
When I looked at the A/S that had been redsigned in 1996 by Mr. Bailey of the UK, the one thing that struck me was his approach to creating an aura of 'space' thru the concept of redefining what is total use~! For instance, the bed folding up and, thus, that area becomes a function of the day-time living space,(counter-top) to cite just one~
While I'm in favor of the approach that the team at A/S is moving toward, there's one thing that I saw that bothers me greatly. This has to do with the use of a carpeting material for the walls and ceiling. Let me explaine before everyone jumps on me..lol
The unit that I went thru was sitting outside in the sun and, as such, when I rubbed my hand over the ceiling fabric..I saw in the sunray's light pieces of fabric dust floating down~!~My concern was one of an health issue (breathing this). Has anyone else notice this?
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it's sweet.......i like the black colored wood i think maby alittle less aluminum showing inside would help too....looks kinda like a fun house. or the house of mirrors.....trailer of mirrors i guess.....i do not like the nick bailey design....looks to star trek or nasa looking.....to much white!
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i do not like the nick bailey design....looks to star trek or nasa looking.....to much white!
I agree with you abt the taste but, what we're looking at here is the art form of one man's courage to be different~
For that and, the results of his undertaking..I show it once more.
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That's a slick look!
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Whats different?

Since when did A/S's EVER have a door on the front? or is that the rear? Wonder how it looks on the outside?

I'll "stick" with my vinyl and oak. (stick with vinyl ... Thats a joke!)

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I don't think I could pass through that space portal ... kinda skinny
looking. I'm not shapped like that at all. Are any of you?

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Beam me up scotty...........it's cool becouse it's different.....maybe you dont use the doors.... they are just hatches for the excape pods....normaly i think with a trailer like that you get beamed in and out of it....you have no need for doors. i think the transporter is located at the rear of the trailer.
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Glad you asked~

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Since when did A/S's EVER have a door on the front?
Actually, the very "first ones" were called BOWLUS Trailer, in this picture of one dated 1937 I believe says it all~!!
Yes, I've had numerous comments from non-Airstreamers as well and, "I LOV IT~!~ Because it's different~
I've never been in that unit but, I'd be willing to bet you that's the door to the bathroom. And, no...for me it's not a problem to get thru that door. I'm 5'9" and, weigh 170lbs.
http://members.aol.com/bowlustrlr/faq.html
This is a URL to a fantastic site with "historical info" abt how it all came about.
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