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Old 03-08-2016, 07:04 PM   #71
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Started on the front end cap. Now that it is a bit warmer here in Oregon Im hoping the paint stripper does a better job then my first attempt on the rear end cap. Its coming off but man what a pain in the ass
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Old 03-08-2016, 07:12 PM   #72
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Rigged up a little rotisserie. Works alright for now but Ill have to improve on it after I install the floor. Managed to get the frame back straight. Propped up the low end and used my tractor front loader to push the other end down. 3rd attempt straightened her out. Ill make sure she's level before the floor goes on
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Old 03-08-2016, 07:18 PM   #73
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bought the plywood today for the floor. went with a 3/4" maple they had on sale at a local bargain lumber store. 11 ply…$33 a sheet. Sanded on both sides…I think it will work. Now I have to figure out where to cut it. Outrigger to outrigger? I replaced most of the outrigger and cut them to 15". The old ones were all different lengths. 14"..14 1/4, etc. Does anybody have some good advice?
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:21 AM   #74
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Just threw out all of my old notes from when I replaced the floor in a '55 Airstream that I used to own (that likely was similar to your '54). I think I had to cut that floor about 84" long in total, if I remember correctly (don't trust my memory, though, because that was several years ago). The floor did extend out slightly from the ends of most/all outriggers when installed as I remember it.

On my current '62. The floor probably extends 1/4" to 1/2" inch beyond each outrigger, but this trailer is wider and I think I cut the floor to about 86" or 87" (still have my notes on this one, but didn't go look for them to confirm my memory).

If you braced the shell very well before you removed it, you could go measure the distance between the inner edges of the floor J-channels and add about 3" to determine your floor width, because the floor channels should be about 1.5" wide each. I'd measure a few places and average them out to select the floor width.

Remember that the floor channel is designed to bolt thru the ends of each outrigger, so the floor needs to sandwich between the floor channel and outrigger. Hopefully at 15", they outriggers do not extend too far and cause the shell to bow out in an unnatural shape when reinstalled. But since the shell is very flexible, it might accommodate a small width increase, but then some of the cabinet fits to the interior walls will change.

Also if the outriggers are too long, getting the belly pan curves to fit may be difficult. Certainly don't want the ends of the outriggers extending past the edges of the plywood floor and outer edge of the floor channels. A slight gap between the ends of the outriggers and the belly wraps is not a problem - the aluminum will follow it's own curve without developing witness marks from the outriggers.

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Old 03-09-2016, 10:38 AM   #75
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Thanks for the heads up Joe. I think I will brace the J-channels and take measurements like you suggest. The shell is not braced at the moment. What is discerning is the fact that a lot of my outriggers were of different lengths. Some as much as an inch. I do remember some of the floor was hanging over the outriggers in some places. Time to quit talking and start a cutting. Cheers
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from where I'm sitting, adding 1/2" or more to the outriggers could cause some "grief" down the road (when you go to reinstall the shell) . . . assuming you also add 1/4" of plywood overhang . . . and for what it's worth, my '51 flying cloud plywood was 85" wide (w/ a 1/4" of overhang over the outriggers).

(thanks for documenting your project - looks great)
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Thanks for the heads up Joe. I think I will brace the J-channels and take measurements like you suggest. The shell is not braced at the moment. What is discerning is the fact that a lot of my outriggers were of different lengths. Some as much as an inch. I do remember some of the floor was hanging over the outriggers in some places. Time to quit talking and start a cutting. Cheers
If you didn't cross brace tje shell before separating it from the floor and frame, it may not be in the exact same shape/width now as before removal. I think you then just need to work off the frame itself. If the longest outrigger was not more than 14.5", I wouldn't make any of the new ones any longer and then I'd measure across them, edge to edge and then make the floor 1/2" to at most 1" wider.

That is, unless you still have the old floor that was removed to use as a template.
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After more measurements I committed on 85". Managed to get the floor in place and all the cuts minus the radius cuts for and aft. I cut all the boards at 85" but now after looking at the front of the shell it looks like it bulges out a tad. Same with the rear of the trailer. Im hoping this is just because I do not have the sides braced. I bolted down the floor and Im fixin to roll her under for a better look see.
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finally got the frame painted. Used Eastman rust encapsulator. Got by with two quarts…barely.
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Installed the floor today. 3/4" birch…cut it to 85" after several measurements and head scratching. Screwed them down temporarily with 2x20-2 self tapping screws. Just accidentally happened upon a Fastenal up in Portland after dropping off my springs to get re-arched. The first screw pulled right thru the plywood. Have to go slow. Im thinking I might need washers. Hope to slide her under the shell tomorrow and finish the cutting. Also worked a little more on paint removal from the front end cap . Slowly coming off
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Are you going to use this perfect opportunity to flip the frame and do the insulating and belly pan upside down?
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Thats the plan. The cruiser is a beast…Im a little nervous about hauling it up from both ends. Before I do I will replace my climbing ropes with big chains and make sure the floor is screwed down good.
I have the floor temporarily screwed down in a few spots now. I Jacked up the frame and put it on roller boards to slide under the shell for the end cut measurements. Didn't go so well the first time. The shell teeters forward…tough to do by myself. I did manage to get her under however. I still need to square it up better before I decide to cut. Whats tough is the shell warps when you let her down from the aluminum in the front and back touch down on the uncut section of flooring. Maybe I should brace it…or not and just cut it and get er done
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