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Old 05-10-2010, 10:42 PM   #1
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What type awning do you have?

We need to get an awning before we head to the International Rally. We were thinking to go with ZipDee, but from what I hear, for a smaller camper it doesn't make sense. We have a 22' and I think the rail measured 12'.

We are now looking at the Carefree awnings. Any thoughts, comments?

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Old 05-10-2010, 10:47 PM   #2
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Kayakampers,

This seems to be a big topic tonight. I personally like the look of the Zipdee.. I think it speaks airstream. Not sure what another brand would look like on your Argosy.

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My current safari has Zip Dee, I used to have an older one that had the Carefree (I bought it used, but I think that was the brand).
I actually like the Carefree better for two reasons.
First, the arms were more substantial. Second, the upper arms had a more gradual curve that followed the shape of the trailer more closely.
Both seem like good products.
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:41 PM   #4
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What type awning do you have?

Greetings KAYAKAMPERS!

Unless things have changed in the last couple of years, the only awning that can be purchased new with the correct arms for vintage Airstream products is the ZipDee. I have had both an A & E Travel Awn (installed by the original owner of my '64 Overlander) and my current ZipDee that replaced the A & E. The ZipDee is so much easier to operate and doesnt trap humidity like the A & E with its vinyl fabric. The ZipDee fabric breathes and generally makes for a more pleasant living atmosphere.

Good luck with your investigation!

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Old 05-11-2010, 12:14 AM   #5
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We took ours off for the reason of the wind was too much of an enemy around this area of the country.(OKLAHOMA) But with a little research we found that some owners have been known to use just the 'C' channel that runs down the length of the AS that a certain sized welp cord fits into. So we saved the welp cord after removal of the un-identified awning structure (could not find a name brand anywhere on the thing)...and later are going to have another one made that SLIDES IN when ready to use. However there will be other issues about how to afix it once unfurled. But so far it's beats all the extra weight and I can get to more areas to polish. If we get super rich one day though I myself would also go with Zip-Dee...they ARE more Airstream-ish.
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Unless things have changed in the last couple of years, the only awning that can be purchased new with the correct arms for vintage Airstream products is the ZipDee.
When I worked for Polishing Guru, we were A&E dealers, and the curved arms were in the A&E/Dometic catalog, marked "available".

We had an A&E on our Argosy 20, and it looked and worked good. That was only a 10 foot awning...
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Old 05-11-2010, 07:22 AM   #7
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We put an A&E on our 61 and have been have been happy with it for 7 years.(14 ft awning)
We have a carefree on our 70 Globetrotter.It needs some re stitching, but it was on their when I bought the trailer in 82.
A call to the A&E factory will get you help with arms. They have a wide variety of arms so something should work.
The one time I priced a Zip Dee it cost more than i had paid for that particular trailer.
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We have a rope and pole awning that we had custom made at a local tent company. Sunbrella fabric, matches the trailer and works great! Cost about half of what a ready-made would have.
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I have had both the Zee Dee and an A&E and like them both for different reasons.

Zee Dee - heavier fabric (wind does not effect it as much), looks more "Airstreamish", don't like the knobs (don't know what they are called) that hold the arms in place or the way to pull it up

A&E - lighter fabric so is easier to put up, a lot of Airstreams have the A&E and they do look good, like the handles that pull the awning up.

I had to choose between the two several years ago and chose the A&E. Dometic does make the curved arms so that was not a problem. The A&E was also about $500 less. And because I travel alone at times, the A&E was easier for me to handle.

Both are well made and you can't go wrong either way.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:51 PM   #10
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Still considering, but ready to get something ordered!

I was originally talking with ZipDee about their awning, but it is really pricey (even $300 shipping - YIKES!!!). I called a local RV dealer that used to be an Airstream dealer and the woman in their parts department knows EVERYTHING about Airstreams, so she's a good source. She thinks ZipDee is not flexible enough with pricing on the smaller awnings, and since we have a 22' she thought it would be too expensive. Both A&E/Dometic and Carefree have the awnings that would fit our 1978 Argosy. I looked at Dometic's website and don't see a good choice on fabrics for awnings. With either Dometic or Carefree, we would probably go with acrylic fabric instead of vinyl, but...... the cost on the vinyl sounds a lot better and you can get the alumiguard with it.
I like Isadora's idea of the fabric and pole type awning, BUT I really want to be able to open up an awning quickly if we needed and you can't do that with the fabric and pole awnings, plus then you've got to store it inside also.
I'm enjoying hearing what ya'll are doing.
PLUS I am totally psyched about this Dutchstream in the fall and the Falluminium too.
We hope to see some of you there.
Thanks. Beth & Chris
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Splurge and go for the woven acrylic. It is much more elegant looking and will enhance the look of your rig.

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Old 05-12-2010, 12:20 PM   #12
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Splurge and go for the woven acrylic. It is much more elegant looking and will enhance the look of your rig.

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Zip Dee uses "Sunbrella" fabric. It's tough as nails. A short life for a Zip Dee, is about 20 years or more.

Other brands of awnings typicall use vinyl impregnated cloths. They typically have a life span of 5 years, as the awning material shrinks and becomes brittle.

Carefree, many many years ago, was owned by a fellow that really cared about his customers. Unfortunately, that died when he sold the company.

Today, if you order a Carefree, and you find out that it doesn't fit even reasonably well, it's just too bad, you own it. They will refuse to help solving the issue. Same if there is any other problem with it. They consider any and all problems to be the fault of the owner!!!! We had battles with them several years ago, because of arms not fitting correctly, or even close. Their answer???? We didn't know how to install awnings, AND, get this, AIRSTREAM PUTS THE AWNING RAILS IN THE WRONG PLACE.

Hello!!!!! Airstream has not changed to location of the awning rail in over 45 years.

Their awning is really not that bad, for a cheap awning, but the fit is terrible.

PLUS, their management is unquestionably, top notch GESTAPO.

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I have an A&E on my Safari, it seems like a pretty good awning so far. I had a Carefree on my SOB and it was (and still is as I have not sold the trailer yet) a fine awning that has held up very well over the 7 years I have used it. I think it has many years of use left. I have never had to deal with them for service so Andy may well be on target about dealing with the company for all I know.
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We need to get an awning before we head to the International Rally. We were thinking to go with ZipDee, but from what I hear, for a smaller camper it doesn't make sense. We have a 22' and I think the rail measured 12'.

We are now looking at the Carefree awnings. Any thoughts, comments?

Thanks.
Beth
I have seen many other brands... and I have had 3 ZipDee awnings so far. On my way from Québec to Louisiana last fall, I stopped in Chicago to have a ZipDee awning installed on my little Minuet 6.0. It is small... and pricy but I like it. I would not have another other type installed on an Airstream or an Argosy trailer. My opinion...
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