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Old 10-14-2008, 11:38 AM   #1
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Is there anyone out there who knows of a dealer for 1.5 in rubrail? And at a DECENT price. Airstream sells it for 50cents/ft. I tried Outdoormart and they want $1/ft and Inland wants slightly less. I wonder, is a 100% markup the way to do business? What a ripoff!!! I don't mind paying a decent markup but get real!! The AS part number for what I need is #201418, orange. And, in spite of trying, it does seem to me that there are UN airstream providers of such materials. I got my T-moulding from Tmoulding.com and find it a good price, but that is all they seem to carry. Thanks
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:46 AM   #2
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Is there anyone out there who knows of a dealer for 1.5 in rubrail? And at a DECENT price. Airstream sells it for 50cents/ft. I tried Outdoormart and they want $1/ft and Inland wants slightly less. I wonder, is a 100% markup the way to do business? What a ripoff!!! I don't mind paying a decent markup but get real!! The AS part number for what I need is #201418, orange. And, in spite of trying, it does seem to me that there are UN airstream providers of such materials. I got my T-moulding from Tmoulding.com and find it a good price, but that is all they seem to carry. Thanks
The rubrail and beltline molding inserts, unless things have changed in the past 18 months, are only available through Airstream or Airstream dealers. I was fortunate to obtain a very good price on my orange inserts at the Airstream tent at a recent WBCCI International Rally. It seems that these moldings must be something that only Airstream utilizes.

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Old 10-14-2008, 11:59 AM   #3
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I got my Airstream repair man to order my orange rubrail vinyl inserts in both the small and the large size and paid nowhere near 50 cents a foot. I think it was more like .12 cents a foot. I used Griffith RV Repair in Oklahoma City. You can find Tom on the Airstream site as just a repair service. They ordered mine and shipped it to me. It's worth a try.
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....for the fast replies. I was, finally, able to order it (to be drop shipped) from Colonial in NJ at 30cents/foot. Certainly better than Inland and others. Thanks for the help.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:37 PM   #5
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Also, anyone needing T-moulding for the table, shelf and bookend case, a great source is www.t-moulding.comThat is about all they do and they have many, many colors. Best of all they will sell you 20 feet or more, not the required 50 or 100 feet of other companies. I had great service and great price from them.
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Old 10-16-2008, 08:03 AM   #6
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I am still in need of the 1/4" flat molding in orange for my 1979 Argosy. It seems that '79 was the only year that the 1/4" molding was used. Any ideas? I have considered vinyl pinstriping.
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....for the fast replies. I was, finally, able to order it (to be drop shipped) from Colonial in NJ at 30cents/foot. Certainly better than Inland and others. Thanks for the help.
And they probably lost at least $20.00 to $25.00 on the deal, if not more, considering processing labor.

Plus Airstream has a surcharge for small orders.

I guess if a company is large enough, selling some things below cost, to obtain nice publicity, doesn't matter.

Surcharges, fuel charges, lift gate charges, minimum order charges, residential delivery charges, shipping charges are things that cannot be controlled and must be passed on, or that business person must take a loss on the sale.

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Re the 1/4 inch flat....where would you use it in the 79? The person from T-moulding emailed me and did say they do carry some flat molding. Might try that site and ask.
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An Andy, selling things at a 100% markup is next to sinful!! It goes both ways in a free society. In terms of the good price, he had a great deal in stock, probably bought when the price was much lower and all he did was cut some from his large stock. I doubt he lost money.
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Old 10-16-2008, 09:35 AM   #10
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An Andy, selling things at a 100% markup is next to sinful!! It goes both ways in a free society. In terms of the good price, he had a great deal in stock, probably bought when the price was much lower and all he did was cut some from his large stock. I doubt he lost money. So, eat somethng sweet to get that sour grapes taste out.
Opinions don't count when the costs to run a business stare you in the face.

Old stock vinyl insert, is not a good thing.

The important thing, is that you got what you wanted at a cheap price.

We on the other hand, as well as other vendors, refuse to sell things at a loss, and expect to receive negative comments about it.

Most of us have very expensive buildings to pay for. That's hard to do when things are sold at a loss.

There are "FAR MORE" costs involved with everything purchased for resale, other than it's acquisition costs.

And please keep in mind, that our employees all have families, that like to eat, therefore they also must be paid. Selling things below cost, doesn't work for them.

But again, your happy and that's all that should matter, at least to you.

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I wonder, is a 100% markup the way to do business? What a ripoff!!! I don't mind paying a decent markup but get real!!
What do you consider a decent markup? The people selling need to buy it, store it, pack it, and even pay taxes on it. All this costts money. Where the business is also has to be factored into the cost. If you can get a part from the boondocks, with low rent and wages and taxes, it would cost less, because their bills are lower.
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What do you consider a decent markup? The people selling need to buy it, store it, pack it, and even pay taxes on it. All this costts money. Where the business is also has to be factored into the cost. If you can get a part from the boondocks, with low rent and wages and taxes, it would cost less, because their bills are lower.
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Thanks Michael for your "get real" support.

Maybe someday Airstream will sell bits and pieces of parts to K-mart and Wal-mart.

Unfortunately, and usually, when a person wants an Airstream or Argosy, they are willing to pay the price.

But, when it comes time to buy genuine parts, somehow this, below cost or free, or "WOW" how much did you say that part costs, becomes an expression from a few.

Dealers are independent business owners that have business overheads, as you pointed out.

But to some, that overhead means a roof, and nothing else.

Then the real surprise, happens when that business receives negative comments, because they must make a profit to stay in business, and to cover all the costs when some of those same customers call on a toll free number, to ask "how to do things" since they are a DIY.

Who pays for that?

It certainly won't be a check from the Feds, so you can stay in business.

Ah yes, the new American way.

Everything is free.

Yeah, right.

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Let's not lose sight of the fact that even if Andy is higher on some of his prices, he is still stocking items that we can get nowhere else. Who else would take the time and space to stock a back window for a 1978 Argosy? Where would you get a duplicate item for a 1976 Sovereign that hasn't been manufactured by Airstream for, oh let's see, over 30 years. We can always call Andy. I buy some stuff locally, sure we all do; however, when push comes to shove, we know Inland RV will be there if all else fails us. Besides Andy offered me a tour of his building for just .25 cents. I'm taking him up on it when I go get my window.
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I am still in need of the 1/4" flat molding in orange for my 1979 Argosy. It seems that '79 was the only year that the 1/4" molding was used. Any ideas? I have considered vinyl pinstriping.
My 75 Argosy uses about a quarter inch orange trim in the aluminum molding that goes around the a/c shroud. I need some too. I don't need to comment on the mark-up issue but I'm gonna. Generally only the seller knows what a fair mark-up is on an item being sold. The buyer is rarely aware of the expenses involved in being able to provide the item or the service. the fact that one person sells something cheaper than another does not mean that one price is fair and the other sinful. Roger
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