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Old 05-01-2007, 01:15 AM   #57
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My '60 Ambassador had the black tank vent pipe in the wall. It was a rubber pipe that came right out the back of the toilet, straight into the wall with a metal 90 that attached to another rubber pipe inside the wall and out the roof.

It can be done. When I re-worked the tank, I ran the vent up inside the closet. I never removed the endcaps.
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Old 05-01-2007, 12:12 PM   #58
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Now that I have the skins off the inside of the project I'm wondering if anyone has run the waste vent pipe inside of the interior skin. There is
1 3/4" between the skins should fit. It should really give me more room in the bathroom. Any thoughts on this subject?
I would be concerned about movement of the two skins, the vent pipe could wear a hole through the outer skin. I suppose you could run the vent up the inside of the wall in the closet there, but I don't know how you can bend a straight pipe around a rounded wall.
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:34 PM   #59
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A thin walled pipe can be bent to a curved shape if is packed with sand. The sand needs to be packed fairly tight. Caps will be need on the ends of the pipe to hold the sand in during bending. The pipe should be formed around a rounded shape, i.e. a barrel, etc of various sizes. Even a tree trunk can be used. I suggest you proactice first.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:23 AM   #60
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Flex Pipe

I found this product, I think it might work. Uses standard pvc fittings.
I'm thinking that a strip of plastic down the skin would keep the pipe from rubbing through the skin.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:47 AM   #61
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Being that aluminum is much harder than plastic and WE HOPE there isn't that much movement I think we're talking a geological time frame for any appreciable wear. What about using vinyl tubing? Easy to bend and comes in almost any size.

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Old 05-02-2007, 09:50 AM   #62
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Being that aluminum is much harder than plastic and WE HOPE there isn't that much movement I think we're talking a geological time frame for any appreciable wear. What about using vinyl tubing? Easy to bend and comes in almost any size.

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Believe it or not, the PVC is harder than the aluminum.
Over a period of time, it can rub through the skin. Not in hundreds of miles, but in thousands of miles, and by the time you notice it on the outside of the trailer, it is too late.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:04 AM   #63
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OK, OK - here are some taken when it was still for sale. Very original! Currently, we have stripped out all furniture and are commencing to separate top form bottom! Big project...
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Cool! It doesn't look like it needs a gut job in the photos. Are you doing a frame off for the floors/body work?
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Believe it or not, the PVC is harder than the aluminum.
Mmm, that's going to be a tough sell. I can imagine sawing thought a PVC pipe with a blade made of aluminum but not the other way around. Aluminum has a hardness of around 70 Rockwell B scale. PVC with a Shore D hardness of 80 converts to near zero on that scale.

Comparison of hardness scales (See figure 8.)

Of course that's not the whole story. Grit between the two pieces could act as an abrasive and even though plastic is soft in comparison to a drill bit it sure dulls the cutting edge faster than aluminum unless the speeds and feeds are carefully controlled.
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Of course that's not the whole story. Grit between the two pieces could act as an abrasive and even though plastic is soft in comparison to a drill bit it sure dulls the cutting edge faster than aluminum unless the speeds and feeds are carefully controlled.
Exactly. Since it is between skins, there is no telling what could get in/on it. I had to reposition some PVC on our Argosy, it was rubbing, if not wearing, a hole in the aluminum.
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Cool! It doesn't look like it needs a gut job in the photos. Are you doing a frame off for the floors/body work?
As they say looks can be deceiving. I washed the interior down and could not get rid of the smell, I had been uneasy about the floor some rot. I pilled one panel up front off the wall and found 3 dead mice, lots of droppings and tunnels in the insulation. So I pulled another panel and found 4 more dead mice more droppings and more tunnels... see where this is going? Needless to say; I have remove all interior panels and End Caps and have found a total of 9 dead mice. I figured as long as I'm here it will be a frame off to replace the floor make some changes in the tanks and I am going to build all new cabinets and seating.
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:16 PM   #68
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Believe it or not, the PVC is harder than the aluminum.
Over a period of time, it can rub through the skin. Not in hundreds of miles, but in thousands of miles, and by the time you notice it on the outside of the trailer, it is too late.
I was thinking of lining the skin with strips of something like PVC or ABS sheet maybe .030 thick. I thought this might cut down on the chance of the pipe rubbing through the skin. Another thought, maybe something softer that would cradle the pipe and keep it from abrading. Something like embedding the pipe in Silicone or a hard rubber sheet. Thoughts.
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:22 PM   #69
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I was thinking of lining the skin with strips of something like PVC or ABS sheet maybe .030 thick. I thought this might cut down on the chance of the pipe rubbing through the skin. Another thought, maybe something softer that would cradle the pipe and keep it from abrading. Something like embedding the pipe in Silicone or a hard rubber sheet. Thoughts.
Why not use the prefab foam insulation that you wrap around pipes? The name of it escapes me...It's got a slit up one side of it, and fits over the pipe. Getting old sucks, but I can't remember why...
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I figured as long as I'm here it will be a frame off to replace the floor make some changes in the tanks and I am going to build all new cabinets and seating.
Gary, have you given any thought to replacing the fresh water tank (above the floor in the front) with a comparable between the frame rails fresh water tank fromk an Airstream? It will get one source of water off the floor, and lower your center of gravity. You could probably do the same in the back for the black tank as well, plus I think the OEM Airstream black and grey tanks hold more goo...
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