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Old 11-07-2002, 03:29 PM   #15
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Greetings Barbwire!

I noticed your question regarding brake controllers. Over the years, I have used a number of different models. I currently have a Tekonsha Voyager (described on the following link)

http://www.brakecontroller.com/voyagerandvoyagerxp.htm

It is an entirely satisfactory unit, and works well with the dash arrangment in my Suburban.

My true favorite, however, is the unit that I purchased for my Cadillac. It has the optional remote "panic" button that allows for easier manual application of the trailer brakes in an emergency situation. This is an absolute necessity in my Cadillac as the only workable mounting place is so low on the dash that the controller cannot be comfortably reached from the driver's seat. This controller is produced by Hayes-Lemmerz and its model name is: Micro Control HD Plus #81750 (described on the following link)

http://aftermarket.hayes-lemmerz.com...l_hd_plus.html

I had an earlier version of this on my Dodge Coronet that I used as a tow vehicle until the early 1990s. The optional remote "Panic" button is what sold me on this unit originally and is one of the reasons that I continue to prefer it to this day.

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Old 11-08-2002, 10:21 AM   #16
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Hi Barbwire - I had to wait till today to answer your brake control ?? because I didn't know.

We have the Tekonsha Voyager also. Price says it works on some kind of inertia (internal pendulum) so more pressure applied to vehicle brakes swings pendulum and activates trailer brakes. He has been very happy with it. Cost here $89.17 plus install. Dont know about other control that Kevin has, but he has provided links to check out, so I would go with what seems right for you. Later. Leigh
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Old 11-08-2002, 11:11 AM   #17
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Leigh,
When I asked Inland RV Andy what brake controller to use on my '77 Excella 500 31' with hydraulic/vacuum disc brakes, he told me a hayes-lemmerz Energize III. I purchased one from him and have been happy with it. It has the same inertia pendulum set-up and also senses the amount of brake pressure I am applying.
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Old 11-13-2002, 02:17 PM   #18
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We have this 87 Argosy which we bought to live in while we built our house. I have not found anyone that can give me any accuate information on it, including the dealer. When I bought it the dealer described it to me as a silver Airstream, we could not find it on the lot at Lazy Days RV anywhere. We finally found the person who preped it and the sales person was as surprised as I was to find out that it was painted. That was in 1998, I have not seen another one since, and I have to convince people that it is an Airstream. I would like to know more about it , anybdy?
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Old 11-13-2002, 02:50 PM   #19
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Hello Toby 622 - I am going to suggest a name I picked up on a thread called "Rock Guards". Charlie Burke is a dealer in Boise, Idaho who has an Argosy. His named was mentioned on the other thread because we were trying to ferret out info about rock guards to fit Argosy Minuet trailers. I called him and he was very nice and helpful! His is a regular Argosy (don't know year), and he might help you out on your quest. His # is 800 345-6651. Happy trails. Leigh
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Old 11-13-2002, 03:28 PM   #20
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Greetings Toby-622!

Welcome to the world of Vintage (or near Vintage) Airstream/Argosy ownership. You will find a wealth of information both here and elsewhere on the Internet. To fill in some information for you, this is what I have been able to learn from my research:

Argosy production began in 1972 for the 1973 model year - - there are a number of Argosys registered as 1972, but in reality they were intended to be marketed as 1973s. The Argosy continued as a painted Airstream clone from 1973 through 1986 when the box-style aluminum clad Argosy was introduced. My information says that Argosy production ended in 1988.

I don't know whether there was any change in how Argosy serial numbers were formatted between 1978 and 1987 - - assuming there wasn't a change, you can decode your serial number using the following as an example: 20D8V1976

20 - Measurement in feet as advertised in factory literature
D - Bed Arrangement (D=Double T=Twin)
8 - Last digit of the model year of production
V - Versailles, Ohio production plant
1976 - Sequential Production Number

According to all that I have been able to discover, all Argosys were produced in Versailles, Ohio.

The Argosy seemed to be marketed as a division of Airstream much as Cadillac and Oldsmobile are marketed as divisions of General Motors. In fact, the relationship seems to be similar - - the Airstream being a Cadillac and the Argosy being an Oldsmobile or Buick. There are a number of features that were tried out in the Argosy line before they were adopted in the Airstream line. One of the biggest examples would be the motorhome. Argosy had the motorhome for several years before Airstream introduced one in its line.

Argosys may very well be a mystery to many of today's brand X dealers. I have found my nearby Airstream dealer to be quite knowledgeable in regard to my Argosy. My brand X dealer who has been around for more than 30 years was very knowledgeable regarding the Argosy when I dropped by for some brake and bearing work. One of the biggest differences between Airstream and Argosy construction is the galvanized steel domes found at both ends of the Argosy where aluminum would be found on Airstreams. For the most part, Argosy used appliances and components of similar manufacture to those found in an Airstream. One difference was that features standard on an Airstream may very well have been optional on the Argosy.

If you have particular questions regarding your Argosy, don't hesitate to post them. Someone on the list will be able to point you in the direction of answers for most any question. Good Luck with your Argosy, and Enjoy!

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Hi everyone,

Overlander:

Thanks for the information on brake controllers. I have not actually picked one out yet, but I am leaning towards the Prodigy. Using an inertial brake controller seems to make more sense since my pickup has 4 wheel ABS. I have never towed with electric brakes before, so there is a lot to learn. The roads can get really nasty in MT. The Prodigy seems to outweigh every thing else in popularity. I have also been told to stay off icy roads, the best brake controller in the world is not going to save your heiney.

Leigh:

Ah, those pesky mice. (I'm answering to another thread) Stainless steel wool if you can find it, and plug up every little hole on the belly pan. I am going to use steel wool and replace it in the spring. Can't seem to find the stainless right now. My work outside days are about over since winter will be here soon. I have heard brass wool works good too. We live on the river, and have a wonderful assortment of wild animals, unfortunately mice are a bother. They can crawl through a crack of 1/4 inch. The little ones even less. Another trick here is to insert the stainless wool, and then shoot some of that canned insulating foam into the wool. I wish I had heard of this trick sooner when I was putting in new heat in the house. These are ideas I found on the VACList. It is a treasure of information!

Good luck. I have a little stepstool too.

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Barbwire - Thanks for the "wooly details". I will take 2 seconds to get off internet and check local stores for a lifetime supply!! I have been having stress wake up calls at night thinking of Mini being invaded. Did you ever see that movie about the two guys buying the old house with the mouse in it? I can't remember the name of it offhand - but if you did, you get the picture....

Kevin - I anxiously await the pictures of your steps~maybe I can find something similiar once I see the setup. I don't mind the box, but think it would be nice to have something a little classier (and safer).

Off I go on a new quest. Leigh
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Greetings Leigh!

These are two photos of the original factory issue step that came with my Minuet. It appears to be made from heavy gauge aluminum sheet that is assembled with rivets. The top is a non-skid rubber or vinyl in Argosy brown/bronze.



This is another view from the bottom:



This is a photo of 78-Mini:



I haven't been able to catch a sunny day to get some really good pictures, but the paint isn't in good shape - - the only panels that have any paint repair are the two domes - - all of the rest of the paint is original - - the orange moulding inserts have been replaced with blue inserts somewhere along the line.

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Hi Barbwire . I have had no luck with stainless steel wool or brass. Tried several sources including: Home Depot, several Ace hardware stores, a local trading post, a gun dealer (brass for cleaning guns), and a local steel distribution warehouse. NOBODY has a clue!! Anybody else got any ideas?? I am rather tenacious, so will keep trying to research.

Hi Kevin. I like the photos of your trailer and steps. Had a hard time getting to see them as my computer kept stalling on pics. I could have gone on vacation and come back and still no pics. I wish I had your step!!! I might take a photo of my crate and we can compare. It has a piece of carpet on top!! (I think I still like yours better!!) I would like to print a copy of yours to take around and see if anyone can come up with a duplicate. Would that be ok?? On another note...
I saw you had posted to AS dogs. Want to see if I can now view the photo of your sweet babies. Our Cedar is sometimes mistaken for a Chihuahua because of her standup ears and color. Its fun to see the many types of dogs. Some I wonder how they fit in the trailer!!! Well, as my son has said...Later Dudes~~~~ Leigh
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Cool step, hard to believe it is still with the trailer. I didn't think I needed one for mine until I replaced the sagged out axle, after that the whole rig sat almost a good 6 inches taller so I put on a steel slide out step I got from Campn'World. I did try to talk the wife into a wood box but to no success. It was a bit of fab work, welding/cutting, to get it solidly mounted but definitely worth it. I promise to get some pics online soon. (yeah, yeah!!)
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Hey Chas, nice to have you return for a chat!!

Guess I am just going to have to find a better choice for entrance into Mini. Can't be getting to some big rally or ritzy campground and have to drag out my box (with the piece of carpet on top!!!) for everybody - especially if any of you other Argosy owners just happen to show up with all your FANCY steps. Can you tell I am a tad bit jealous!!??
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I think you are the last in line to post pics of your recent acquisition. No, wait... we haven't seen or heard from the New 24' owner for a while. Hint....Hint...

I wonder if there has ever been an Argosy rally before?? I wonder how many would show up?

We finally called about an owners manual today!! We asked for a tech/repair manual but were told there was not one?? Since you have yours for your 22' (owner or repair??) can we compare when we receive ours? Pretty please~~

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Leigh,
I don't think I would worry about a repair manual for your unit, most new trailers only come with manuals for the appliances, pumps, converters, axles, etc., repairs to the major parts of the trailers is just based on common practices, much like the ordinary repairs you may do or have done around the house. Anything which is specific to your unit such as skin repair or sealing can be had in these forums. I have heard of factory service manuals for the Airstreams and Argosy's but reports say they tend to be vague and generic. Great to see your "Mini"!!
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hi all, just started on restoration of 86 argosy 27' center bath was luky enough to have been given all original silver key delivery binder original window sticker etc. the trailer was actually assebled in jackson center ohio all original interior some water damage from deteriorated exterior rubber and seals removed all interior pieces removed everything down to subfloor some water damage of subfloor all 4 corners are soft or somewhat bad will replace as needed looking to replace all flooring thruout with either laminate or with cork still not sure what to do with the damaged interior walls try to match cardboard with whatever it is, looks like contact paper or to replace with a wood veneer would love comments or suggestions. I am refinishing all cherry wood cabinets and frames thru out as well as all faucets and shower valves with high end fixtures I aquired thru out the years ( told my wife I would have a need for them someday) trying to locate a parts or repair manual or both if I can find don't know what all terminology is on exterior rubber and gaskets any help would be greatly appreciated the only dumb question is the one not asked thanks, bob (aka mr.cappuccino)
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