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Old 11-27-2006, 01:10 PM   #1
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Mysterious Wet Spot in Argosy

Hey, Argo Specialists! Got a brain teaser for you.

1975 Argosy 24 Twin, sink & oven/stove top on streetside, fridge on curbside. After camping a couple of days for Thanksgiving I located a small wet spot UNDER the dry carpet just between the oven and fridge. No sign of moisture from either side of the trailer. The wet spot mysteriously starts in the middle, a bit closer to the oven than the fridge. It's about the size of a small dinner plate.

All the water lines follow the streetside interior walls.

Where is this moisture coming from? Could it be a drain pipe from the sink to the gray tank? Will I need to drop the covering from under the trailer to find it? Waiting for advice here. Thanks!
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You've got a ceiling vent directly over that area. How are your gaskets? Was it raining over this period? Were you running the A/C?
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Old 11-27-2006, 04:22 PM   #3
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Old 11-27-2006, 04:52 PM   #4
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The curious thing to me, is he says it's "under the dry carpet"...hmmm.
How could the carpet be dry if it were a leak from above?

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Old 11-27-2006, 05:15 PM   #5
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why would it be dry if the leak is from below
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Old 11-27-2006, 05:25 PM   #6
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I too would be thinking of roof vent or A/C gasket, which can create a wet spot. Carpet might dry over it, leaving wet wood underneath... Pet idea pretty good as well... (Baad dog!)
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why would it be dry if the leak is from below
Dunno...gravity?

I agreed it could be the carpet dried faster than what's below, but if you were camping in it I would assume you would notice it right away, not after enough time that the carpet would dry.

BTW, does this Argy have aluiminum floors?

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We had something like this happen......

There is an outlet and 12v (cigarette lighter size) plug mounted on the underside of the overhead bin near this location. We had a leak around our TV antenna mount on the roof in the front of the trailer - many feet away. The water wicked down the wire that runs between the skins and dripped out of this outlet. It pooled on the counter or ran off onto the floor depending on how level the trailer was.

Or.... maybe someone dropped a beer on the floor and didn't want to fess up?
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I agreed it could be the carpet dried faster than what's below, but if you were camping in it I would assume you would notice it right away, not after enough time that the carpet would dry.

BTW, does this Argy have aluminum floors?
No Shari, only a limited number of Minuets had those -- and only Overlander64 could tell you for sure.

The law of gravity has not been repealed. I vote that the source was from above. There is no plumbing below this area!

sierrajb? The ball is in your court..........
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Okay, all...my time to chime in.

1. It was NOT Rocky (our Cairn Terrier). He is a good dog with great bladder control. Plus...I smelled the wet spot. (Hey, you've all done that, too!)
2. Yes, we were camping in it at the time, and the carpet NEVER was wet. In fact, the wood (not aluminum) floor is the wettest, then the bottom of the carpet padding. It gets drier the closer to the top of the carpet. Top of the carpet is bone dry...always has been.
3. No, nothing was spilled. Besides, if something was spilled, it didn't have time to dry the carpet and leave the rest under the carpet wet.
4. I checked the vent above this spot. Yes, it needs new weatherstrip, but no rain was in sight during the 2-day camping trip. Thus, no leaking from the vent OR the TV antenna cord. Janet, the PO told me about a leak in that spot that ruined the green countertop (if that color could be ruined). I've already replaced the counter and have been policing that spot until I can stop the leak with vulkem.
5. Not the AC either. It was a beautiful day, and we never ran the AC.
6. How sure are you that no plumbing is under the floor in the middle? Do the pipes to the gray tank run alongside the streetside, too? I plan on dropping the bottom cover in a few days to take a look-see.

Yes, the ball's in my court, and so is the wet spot (now dried by a space heater). Come on, guys & gals....more brain work needed here.
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Oh, David Alan...
It could be dry on the top if I caught the wet spot BEFORE it had time to reach the top. This was the maiden voyage and I was watching everything I could think of, from electricity to leaks.

I'm thinking the only way to prove it was NOT a leak from below is to drop the bottom panels. Hate to procrastinate, but don't look forward to doing that on my back in freezing weather on a sloping driveway. (Yes, it's got chocks on every tire and on the tongue...but still....)
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Okay, another thought...

While driving to your campsite, did you go through any big puddles or such that could have splashed water up through a crack or hole in your belly pan?

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OK- here is the real poop on your wet belly problem. An Argosy of your vintage by this time does have some belly panel decay. No this isn't like the belly button fuzz from college days. This is serious. I have to say that Sheri probably has nailed it! If not that, you should know to never park you Argosy over a broken water hose!
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If you ran your fridge before leaving home, and didn't run it on LP on the way to the campsite, the fridge would have started to defrost, and melted condensate from the cooling unit would have accumulated on the floor, BELOW carpet level. If the trailer was at a slight angle side to side, with the fridge slightly higher, the water would puddle under the carpet.
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