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11-30-2005, 08:13 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman
What does "IMHO" mean?
What does "SOB" mean?
I dont think it has the composite floors.
mtnman
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IMHO In My Humble Opinion
and SOB has several conotations but for the most part when used in Airstream context...Some Other Brand or Square Old Box.
Aaron
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11-30-2005, 08:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john hd
imho=in my honest opinion
sob=some other brand...not airstream or argosy
john
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IMHO could also mean "in my humble opinion"
Bill
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Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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11-30-2005, 08:16 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
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Its a Minuet!!!
Greetings mtnman!
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman
What is this coach worth?
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The value question is among the more difficult to answer as the 7.3 Metre Minuet is among the more unusual Argosy coaches, and at least among the very few 7.3 Metre coaches that I have encountered, the Double bed floorplan is a bit unusual -- the more typical seemed to be twins on either side of the center aisle. The few that I have seen seemed to be relatively evenly divided between front dinette and front lounge layouts for the living area.
One suggestion would be to check out R. J. Dial's website's Price vs. Condition guide -- see:
http://www.vintageairstream.com/rr_t...condition.html
While Argosy coaches tend to be a little lower in price, the Minuets have been gaining in popularity for the past two or three years. Just based on the photos and prices that I have been seeing in the Midwest for Argosy coaches, I would anticipate an asking price in the range between $1,750 to at most $3,000. This would be low-season in the Midwest and I would anticipate much closer to the low-end of the range -- in warmer climates I would anticipate a price more toward the higher end. Knowing the cost for upholstery and soft goods for the interior refurbish, as well as the cost for awning repair/replacement my suspicion would be that a reasonable value may be betwee $1,000 and $1,725.
Three years ago, I purchased my 6.0 Metre Minuet in the 1,000 to 1,500 range and have since spent in excess of $5,000 on interior refurbishment, new axle, new air conditioner, new power converter, new water heater. The coach's original furnace, refrigerator, and PAR water pump still pass their annual inspections. I purchased the coach from the original owner who was an acquaintance through the WBCCI, and I felt like the price was somewhat below the market even then.
Good luck with your decision!
Kevin
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WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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11-30-2005, 08:18 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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Collettsville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
The smarta** answer would be "what you are willing to pay for it". If I had to hazard a guess, based on what the photos show, maybe $1500, not knowing if anything works, and knowing how hard Carefree awning parts are to get.
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Thats about what I thought it was worth. All the windows and latches are there and work well. One side window is cracked and needs replacing. Do I need to be concerned about the frame rust? I feel like its ok and solid. I stood on rear bumper and jumped up and down while the wife watched for give or space in the body and frame. It appears fine. Its got one cabinet/furnance cover missing to the right of the range. It appears to still have the spring there but the door is gone, I dont even know what kind of door was there? Here is a pic, is this hard to replace or should I just find something new?
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11-30-2005, 08:22 PM
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Collettsville
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Oh, I bet it was another tambour!!!
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11-30-2005, 08:24 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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Collettsville
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How is "minuet" pronounced?
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11-30-2005, 08:34 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Its a Minuet!!!
Greetings mtnman!
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman
How is "minuet" pronounced?
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The easiest explanation is that it is pronounced like the musical term:
or approximating--
**Min - you - ette**
Kevin
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WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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11-30-2005, 08:35 PM
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Collettsville
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Where can we find some pics of other Minuet 7.3?
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11-30-2005, 08:39 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Its a Minuet!!
Greetings mtnman!
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman
Oh, I bet it was another tambour!!!
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If it were a '78, I would be virtually certain of the idea that is would be a tambour. The shape of the opening (the rounded corners) make me think that it may have been a solid vinyl-clad aluminum door (all of the cabinetry in the Minuet was vinyl-clad aluminum as a weight-saving measure).
On the '78 Minuets, the cabinet below the kitchen sink had vertical sliding tambour (slid right to left) at least those that I have seen from the Versailes, OH factory. I seem to remember the same being true of the '79 Minuets that I have seen, but the shape of the opening doesn't seem to correspond to what I remember seeing on the tambour equipped coaches.
Kevin
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WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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11-30-2005, 08:52 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
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Its a Minuet!!!
Greetings mtnman!
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman
Where can we find some pics of other Minuet 7.3?
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There aren't too many photos of 7.3 Metre coaches on the net that I have encountered. The page below is the Minuet page from the 1979 showroom literature:
There are a few photos of 7.3 Minuets here on the forums including:
http://www.airforums.com/photo...&searchid=1468
http://www.airforums.com/photo...&searchid=1468
Good luck with your investigation and decision!
Kevin
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WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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11-30-2005, 09:23 PM
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Collettsville
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Yep, thats it, at the bottom of that brochure!
The tag I found on the side of the coach calls for 775-R15 tires and 35 PSI. Isnt that a little low on tire pressure?
mtnman
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11-30-2005, 10:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
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air pressure...
Judging from the pics, it probably came with car or truck tires, hence the lower air pressure? I'd definately get the ST tires (the orginals were also probably bias ply).
Marc
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12-01-2005, 05:17 AM
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Retired.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman
Yep, thats it, at the bottom of that brochure!
The tag I found on the side of the coach calls for 775-R15 tires and 35 PSI. Isnt that a little low on tire pressure?
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I think you left out a couple of numbers onm your tire size, maybe 225 75R15? Or 7.00 R15? Anyway, if the 35psi figure is correct, and you get ST tires, which you should, don't go over 50 psi on the new tires, even if the inflation pressure on the side of the tire is higher. In fact, look carefully at the wheels, they may also have a maximum inflation pressure stamped on them. If they do, don't inflate over that figure.
As far as the rust goes, if you have no serious pitting, or holes in the frame, just clean off the rust, and put some POR-15 on it.
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12-01-2005, 11:45 AM
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Collettsville
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The awning is there attached to the coach but the retracting springs have jumped loose, is this something easy to repair? Its a carefree awning. Do you think I can repair this awning? Can the awning ends be taken out and springs be re-wound or something?
mtnman
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12-01-2005, 06:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
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Congrats!
I haven't been on in a couple days, but it looks like you've done well. To confirm what was already said, yes, the wheelwells are plastic. I'd say your rust issues are relatively minor from the looks of your shocks.
It has only begun... enjoy the Air-Dreams!
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12-01-2005, 06:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman
The awning is there attached to the coach but the retracting springs have jumped loose, is this something easy to repair? Its a carefree awning. Do you think I can repair this awning? Can the awning ends be taken out and springs be re-wound or something?
mtnman
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Usually when the spings do what those did, they broke internally. You can wind it up by hand, and make sure it is secured by using a bungie cord, or rope, to hold the awning from unrolling while you are driving down the road.
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01-03-2006, 08:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
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dumb*** question
How do you tell from looking at them whether you are looking at an Argosy or an Argosy Minuet. I'm getting excited about two I've seen, and one definitely has a wood floor - 1973. The 76 looks a bit different.
Tin Lizzie
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01-03-2006, 09:48 PM
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulaFord
How do you tell from looking at them whether you are looking at an Argosy or an Argosy Minuet. Tin Lizzie
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Not dumb.... There is a sure fire way to tell the difference. Minuets are narrower by 6 inches than regular argosys. Some Minuets had wood floors.... usually rhe longer ones - but not always.
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01-05-2006, 04:51 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
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Minuet vs Argosy 20, 22, 24
In addition to the width reduction -- Minuets had an outside floor width of 7' while the standard Argosy coaches had an outside floor width of 7' 8" -- the Minuets were only produced during three model years -- the line began (evidently late) in the 1977 model year and continued through the end of the first series Argosy production in 1979.
Prior to the introduction of the Minuet, the Argosy 20 carried the same floorplans as the Minuet 6.0 Metre -- it had the wider 7' 8" outside floor width that could easily be seen by comparing the front lounge (on models so equipped) as the Argosy 20 had a street-side armrest on the lounge that was not found on the Minuet due to the decreased width. The Argosy 20 production run seems to have begun during the the first year of Argosy production and ended following the introduction of the Minuet 6.0 Metre.
So far, I have heard reports and witnessed the composite aluminum floor in a large number of the 6.0 Metre Minuets (but not all -- have seen plywood floors in one late 1978 and one 1979 6.0 Metre), and have also witnessed one 6.7 Metre Minuet with the composite aluminum floor. The only 7.3 Metre Minuets that I have heard reports on have noted plywood floors -- but the number of 7.3 Metres that I have seen is quite small so it is quite possible that there may be a few 7.3 Metre coaches with the composite aluminum floors. Every Argosy 20 that I have encountered seems to have had the traditional plywood floor.
Kevin
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Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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01-05-2006, 05:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
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I knew we needed the details from Kevin. Always glad to see your posts!!
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