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01-27-2009, 04:50 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1979 Argosy 27
1969 21' Globetrotter
1953 25' Cruiser
Front Royal
, Virginia
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 407
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How to seal window joints & seams prior to painting?
Ok this is question 2 of my 1001 planned questions. I want to get my 79 Argosy painted but I notice that there is a lot of silicone on the beltline and on the side seams. I dont know if this was just the previous owner going over board or if there was a problem. I remember reading about the beltlines leaking. The glazing or solder on the corners of the windows are mostly chipped away. As far as I can tell so far there are no leaks or signs of previous leaks.
Should I worry about removing the silicone and doing something else? Is this something that I should seal prior to painting? Or should the autobody place take care of this?
Are the window corners glazed or soldered and how do I fix them?
Thanks for your help.
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01-27-2009, 06:30 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nick6930
Ok this is question 2 of my 1001 planned questions. I want to get my 79 Argosy painted but I notice that there is a lot of silicone on the beltline and on the side seams. I dont know if this was just the previous owner going over board or if there was a problem. I remember reading about the beltlines leaking. The glazing or solder on the corners of the windows are mostly chipped away. As far as I can tell so far there are no leaks or signs of previous leaks.
Should I worry about removing the silicone and doing something else? Is this something that I should seal prior to painting? Or should the autobody place take care of this?
Are the window corners glazed or soldered and how do I fix them?
Thanks for your help.
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If your going to paint the Argosy, all the silicone and any trace of it, must be removed.
The window seams are sealed with "Par-bond."
The sealing of the beltline was unnecessary. It's near impossible to have a leak there. All the belt line does is cover a rivet seam.
The greater concern should be the condition of the window, entrance door, and access door gaskets and especially the sewer vent pipe cover gaskets, which last about 5 to 6 years.
Since the trailer is 30 years old, more than likely all the exterior gaskets are bad.
All to many owners, go crazy with "silicone sealers on the exterior." Most always leaks are from gaskets or missing rivets.
Andy
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01-27-2009, 08:16 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1974 Argosy 24
Science Hill
, Kentucky
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 427
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Andy,
can I just call in and order all of the gaskets to change on my 74 windows too? How much work is it to change all of these gaskets?
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01-27-2009, 08:18 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Sillycone
Silicone, in all forms must stay at least 1000yds away from any paint booth.
No kidding it will reek havoc on fresh paint.
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01-27-2009, 08:43 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mouth012006
Andy,
can I just call in and order all of the gaskets to change on my 74 windows too? How much work is it to change all of these gaskets?
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Sure can.
All we need to know, since you have an Argosy, is how many windows open and their sizes.
Typically, the first window takes about an hour, and the rest about 30 minutes each.
We also offer verbal instructions as to "how to do it." Not to be confused with "howie do it."
You should also check the entrance door gasket, the access compartment gaskets, and especially the sewer vent pipe gaskets. All the gaskets can be changed in a weekend or less, as long as you have your favorite near your side. You know, that six pack.
Andy
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01-27-2009, 08:56 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1974 Argosy 24
Science Hill
, Kentucky
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 427
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we did check them and they ALL need changing.....so that should be a fun job...will check with inland hopefully tommorow if the weather in Kentucky allows the phones to work tomorrow. They sure were not working today
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Kevin & Monique
New to A/S---Not to Honey Do's
Sweetie (lab) Snickers (lab) Blackie(lab)
Dotz(daschund) CB (daschund) Oh and 3 kids!!!
TAC# KY-3
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01-27-2009, 09:02 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mouth012006
we did check them and they ALL need changing.....so that should be a fun job...will check with inland hopefully tommorow if the weather in Kentucky allows the phones to work tomorrow. They sure were not working today
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Sorry about the phones.
Yes, our weather is getting to be sad all over.
In southern Cal, it should be in the 50's in the day. No way. It's more like 70's and 80's.
Man, it's winter, let us cool off.
I will be in about 8am, and would be glad to help you with the "how to." That is if the phones work, back east.
Andy
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01-28-2009, 06:54 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Tucson
, AZ
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,480
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
Sure can.
All we need to know, since you have an Argosy, is how many windows open and their sizes.
Typically, the first window takes about an hour, and the rest about 30 minutes each.
We also offer verbal instructions as to "how to do it." Not to be confused with "howie do it."
You should also check the entrance door gasket, the access compartment gaskets, and especially the sewer vent pipe gaskets. All the gaskets can be changed in a weekend or less, as long as you have your favorite near your side. You know, that six pack.
Andy
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I am not certain how much help this six-pack would be, but I wouldn't mind having it by my side when I start working on my windows... and I'm going to bet that I will see that it takes more than a weekend to complete! Laura
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03-15-2009, 04:11 PM
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New Member
1979 30' Argosy
North Bend
, Washington
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by funkill
I am not certain how much help this six-pack would be, but I wouldn't mind having it by my side when I start working on my windows... and I'm going to bet that I will see that it takes more than a weekend to complete! Laura
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OMGee .... this forum is fun !
I might need "6packs" help
~ Teri
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03-17-2009, 12:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy 24
Currently Looking...
Milltown
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,087
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What is a ballpark figure to buy all the gaskets for a 24 foot Minuet?
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03-17-2009, 04:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 17' Caravel
Currently Looking...
Las Cruces
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 577
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Just ordered material for windows and door of a 6.0 Minuet including the vent gaskets and adhesive. Came to about $134 shipped to me from Inland. I would guess one more window in your 24 ft. would run another $20 or so.
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