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Old 07-15-2009, 12:50 PM   #15
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We just bought a 1975 Argosy-- also cheap, but in great condition! Welcome aboard to the forums. Our Argosy still had the rail for the rope type canopy. We're thinking of going with that instead of investing in the more expensive mounted awning. Here's the link of a place that sells the striped, vintage style canopies that I've seen on Airstreams in the past: Vintage Trailer Awning

They aren't cheap, but I'm assuming the mounted awning would be even more expensive...
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Old 07-16-2009, 02:17 AM   #16
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We just bought a 1975 Argosy-- also cheap, but in great condition! Welcome aboard to the forums. Our Argosy still had the rail for the rope type canopy. We're thinking of going with that instead of investing in the more expensive mounted awning. Here's the link of a place that sells the striped, vintage style canopies that I've seen on Airstreams in the past: Vintage Trailer Awning

They aren't cheap, but I'm assuming the mounted awning would be even more expensive...
Hey, thanks for the link! Ours still has the original canopy rail, so I might look into that solution as well. It looks to be considerably less than the attached rail canopies ( the one for our Argosy 27 was $1700 + shipping ).

Ours has good bones, but until I get into it this weekend I won't know for certain about the systems. Nothing "looks" bad - no wet floorboards, no rotted wood near the tanks, etc, but you never know 'til you look underneath stuff, right?

Thanks again!

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Old 08-02-2009, 02:32 PM   #17
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After a few days inside!

Ok, I've gotten down and looked at everything in her now, and I have about a million questions. I'm gonna ask a few here, and mull over the results.

The major appliances all seem solid - the AC works, the Fridge works (on electric - haven't tested LP yet).

Do these things (my '78 Argosy 27) have a control panel? If so, where? I've not found a pump switch - although I've found the pump. I'm going to replace the pump and some of the plumbing right away, but if I'm missing something...

What do people usually use for leveling jacks on these beasties? I'm thinking of picking up a set of bottle jacks with extenders; they're like, $12 per at Harbor Freight.

Any recommendations for the converter/charger/inverter? I'm looking at the Tripp-lite combination devices @1kw constant 2kw surge. It's got the converter, charger, and inverter in one. I'm thinking of throwing in a couple of extra batteries, too. Anyone have suggestions or experience they would care to share?

How do I find out if this thing has a gray water tank? Should a '78 have one? I'm looking underneath, and it looks like there might be room for a very small one underneath the shower, but I'm baffled as to how to find out. I suppose I can run water into the tub and see, eh?

I've got an Atwood 6Gal LP water heater - the original water heater has been removed, adn the cover panel screwed into the shell, but the Atwood looks like a smooth fit, and the panel appears identical. Can one put a larger water heater in there?

Did this type of coach come with an LP regulator - where you hook up both bottles and it auto-switches? It looks like just a term nozzle that screws in, but I wanted to know if that's original.

Any suggestions on what to use to protect those beautiful front windows from gravel? I've been considering making some gravel shields from sheet aluminum and big sheets of the metallized bubble wrap.

Has anyone experimented with replacing the incandescent LV lights inside with, say, 12v CFLs or LED based solutions?

And last but not least, anyone have any experience with macerator systems? I'm thinking about putting one on this, as it would allow me to dump my tanks at home. Do they work as well as they say?

LOL. That's a lot of questions, and a small percentage of the ones I've got. Thanks in advance to anyone who cares to share their thoughts or experiences.

-Steve
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:19 PM   #18
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Greetings Steve!

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Ok, I've gotten down and looked at everything in her now, and I have about a million questions. I'm gonna ask a few here, and mull over the results.

The major appliances all seem solid - the AC works, the Fridge works (on electric - haven't tested LP yet).
If the refrigerator works on 120-volt AC, it should work on LP. Should there be an issue with the LP side, it often is related to:
  • Problems with the automatic switch-over regulator
  • Dirt, debris, bee/wasp nests, bird nests, etc. blocking flow in the chimney.
  • Problems with pilot adjustment
  • Blockage of the through-floor vent (if your refrigerator doesn't have a vented access door on the exterior).
  • The spark ignitors are known to give problems as they age and there are threads on the forums regarding work-arounds and repairs.
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Do these things (my '78 Argosy 27) have a control panel? If so, where? I've not found a pump switch - although I've found the pump. I'm going to replace the pump and some of the plumbing right away, but if I'm missing something...
The control panel was optional on the Argosy travel trailers. It was a popular option, but not all coaches had them. If your coach is so-equipped, it would usually be found in the roof locker above the range. When the coach didn't have a control panle, the pump switch was normally within arm's reach of the kitchen sink. On my '78 Minuet, it is an illuminated rocker switch above and to the lerft of the kitchen sink.

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What do people usually use for leveling jacks on these beasties? I'm thinking of picking up a set of bottle jacks with extenders; they're like, $12 per at Harbor Freight.
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Any recommendations for the converter/charger/inverter? I'm looking at the Tripp-lite combination devices @1kw constant 2kw surge. It's got the converter, charger, and inverter in one. I'm thinking of throwing in a couple of extra batteries, too. Anyone have suggestions or experience they would care to share?
I have an Inverter/Converter setup similar to what you are considering and it works well for me in my Overlander -- which has 150 Watts of solar panels on its roof. The Overlander has a total of three AGM batteries -- I went with these as venting is not as critical as it would be with lead-acid batteries. With most Argosy coaches, it can be difficult to find adequate space for sealed battery boxes -- and each box creates another opportunity for furutre leaks.

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How do I find out if this thing has a gray water tank? Should a '78 have one? I'm looking underneath, and it looks like there might be room for a very small one underneath the shower, but I'm baffled as to how to find out. I suppose I can run water into the tub and see, eh?
A gray water tank was standard on the '78 Argosy coaches, and on the standard line the tank collected all gray water. If I am correct, your coach has an above floor balckwater tank and a below-floor gray water tank. If the toilet appears to be on an elevated paltform -- the blackwater tank is below that platform.

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I've got an Atwood 6Gal LP water heater - the original water heater has been removed, adn the cover panel screwed into the shell, but the Atwood looks like a smooth fit, and the panel appears identical. Can one put a larger water heater in there?
A six gallon water heater was standard, and a ten gallon was available as an option. It seems that most Argosy coaches were equipped with the six gallon. The new Atwoods are a near exact replacements for the originals.

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Did this type of coach come with an LP regulator - where you hook up both bottles and it auto-switches? It looks like just a term nozzle that screws in, but I wanted to know if that's original.
Argosy coaches came with an automatic switch-over regulator very similar to the ones included with the Airstreams of similar vintage.

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Any suggestions on what to use to protect those beautiful front windows from gravel? I've been considering making some gravel shields from sheet aluminum and big sheets of the metallized bubble wrap.
The easiest solution is the three-piece rock-guards made for Classic Airstreams that were pre-wide-body. These rock guards are a direct fit and cost about the same as one of the deep-wrap wing windows.

Good luck with your coach!

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Old 08-02-2009, 07:38 PM   #19
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Wow, great information, Kevin, thanks for taking the time. That helps a *lot*.
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If you have two pull handles for the dump system, you have both black and gray water tanks. There is usually a pair of labels that distinguish which handle goes to what.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:13 PM   #21
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If you have two pull handles for the dump system, you have both black and gray water tanks. There is usually a pair of labels that distinguish which handle goes to what.
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ROFL! Elegant. And obvious, once pointed out. Thanks!
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