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Old 05-08-2010, 08:04 AM   #1
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Found one!

Now I just need to figure if its worth (to me) what is being asked.
Its a 26' '74 in what I would describe as fair/good exterior and poor/fair interior.
Asking $4500
New tires, thats about it. Bath needs replace, cabinetry "should" be replaced.
Water heater probably does not function.
A/C working
Fridge works, rust around door seal
Furnace works
Copper piping throughout, has had water breaks, evidenced by the stains on the visible sub floor in the cabinets.
Mouse infestation at some point.
Some black mould in sub floor under sink, not an issue, its surface and can easily be removed. White effervescence also in evidence, so hard water/scaling issues?????
Front windows probably leak, or have done, as they are VERY poorly caulked.
Here is a window and other pics
Your comments appreciated.
Am I being too fussy?

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Old 05-08-2010, 08:24 AM   #2
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Sounds like 4500 might be on the high side,have you checked out the floor real good? An ice pick may spread some light on that,also figure in axles,unless they have been changed. Dave
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Old 05-08-2010, 08:34 AM   #3
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Too high.... I would say 3500 -3900 would be more in line and maybe a little lower... What is the paint like? Are the endcaps rusted? Really check out inside the door on the right below the window.... Good luck
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Old 05-08-2010, 08:55 AM   #4
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Wow, thank for the quick replies, I appreciate it!
I did check for softness in the floor and it feels solid. My concern there is that laminate and vinyl have been laid, but I did have a pretty good jump up and down and felt no "give", is that enough, without tearing up the laminate:-)
I really do not know if cabinetry is original or not. I guess if we buy it we replace anyway. I actually never did anything like this before but my two sons are eager to give the renovation a try so I feel I should get it and spend the time doing this with them. I just want to ensure (as best I can) that I have bought it at a good enough price to make it a feasible project.

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Old 05-08-2010, 10:46 AM   #5
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Check the floor around the perimeter of the trailer, look inside cabinets and try to get a finger, ice pick, or long narrow screwdriver into the floor right where the wall meets the floor. This is where moisture tends to collect, and then rot out the floor.

The problem spots with floor rot are generally under the front window, under the salon windows next to the door, immediately under the door, and the entire rear, both under the rear window and under any and all plumbing.

Be caeful, often times owners will lay wood floors or vinyl over bad floors, either in an attempt to cover up the rot, or sometimes simply because they just don't know.

But, chances are, just about any vintage trailer is going to have some rot. Sometimes you can patch it, but often entire sections of floor need to be replaced. This can be done and has often been done by simple DIYers, but you need to know what you're getting into so you're not surprised and/or disappointed when you discover the issues after you've paid your money.

You also need to see if there is any missing bellypan, underneath the trailer, in order to check the condition of the frame. If you can see it, then check for rust. Surface rust is very common and is okay, but often times frame pieces or outriggers have rusted all the way through, and those will need to be addresses.

Not trying to scare you, but vintage trailers tend to have a lot of issues. It's nothing many other people haven't dealt with before you, and there is a ton of help here on the Forums.

Overall, like others I think the asking price is probably too high, but at the end of the day only you can decide what a trailer is worth to you. Just keep in mind, there will ALWAYS be another so, so be patient, look at a lot of trailers if possible, and keep an open mind. Yours is out there somewhere, if this isn't the one.

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Old 05-08-2010, 10:52 AM   #6
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I'll say one other thing-- if you're planning a major renovation, then the initial price of the Airstream is nothing more than the cost of entry. Chances are you will spend several times that amount repairing/replacing everything that needs to be redone. Axles alone could cost you up to $2,000, and chances are this trailer will need new axles unless they have already been replaced.

All of that said, renovating my Airstream has been one of the most fun DIY experiences I've ever had, even on those days when I'm sore, tired, and bleeding from the work. Doing something like this with your sons will no doubt be an extremely rewarding experience.

Just don't be too quick to jump on the first trailer you see. Spend some time on this site doing your homework so you know what you're getting into. I STRONGLY recommend reading through these threads I will link below, called the "Major Renovations." They will show you all of the kinds of things you might encounter. Many of them are lengthy and cover spans of years, but that will provide you realistic expectations of what you're up against.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f44/...ons-35399.html

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Old 05-08-2010, 12:22 PM   #7
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I can give you some idea of cost for repairs since I just did one that was in great original shape. All repairs done by yours truely.

Furnace 22k-$ 580
Tires - $ 460
new foam - $ 300
upholstery - $ 260
faucets - $ 60
floor - $ 90
elec jack - $ 185
awning - $ 220
awn rail - $ 30
cooktop - $ 160
paint - $ 120 did it myself
misc. rivets supplies- $160

soooo $2600 and it had a new hot water heater, a/c only 4 years old, fridge worked, new elec brakes, glass perfect and axles were ok. I still need shocks since they are original and countertops replaced.

If you drop $3000 to $4000 in yours is it worth it to you?

Good luck on the decision.
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Old 05-09-2010, 01:27 PM   #8
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Thanks for the input and PM's everyone, I appreciate it!
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Old 05-09-2010, 05:41 PM   #9
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It looks like an Argosy to me. I am assuming $4500 Canadian. Sounds a little high even in Canadian dollars. I think this unit is identical to mine. I paid $2200 US and have about $7000 US into it now. I have a few pics on my Blog of what I've done.
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Old 05-10-2010, 07:06 AM   #10
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Yes it is an Argosy, totally forgot to mention that!
Cdn Dollars, yes.
Looking through the info here I believe a "fair" price for the trailer would be around 2k
I really like what you have done with yours.
Did you build the dinette frame complete (not so much the frame but panels)
Have you checked your axles yet? Do they need replacing, it seems like a given that they do need to be replaced.

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Old 05-10-2010, 07:55 AM   #11
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Here's a reno'd one in Alberta.
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:31 AM   #12
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Lots of good advice here and I agree with it all. The only thing that I might add is to make sure that you buy the Airstream that has the right size and layout for you, because after you have done all your renovation work you will have to live with the size and layout. I sold a 24' Argosy because it had bunk beds and a front dinnette, a layout I did not want. I bought a 66 24' Tradwind with two fold down gouchos. The curved windows and real wood cabinetry in real nice shape were a factor also. The Tradewind was in great shape when I bought it, it had most of the fluff work completed. Now I am taking care of the mechanical stuff- new plumbing, converter, refrig and probably ac and adding a second battery and a 2,000 watt inverter for mw, hairdryer, tv and coffee pot.
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Old 05-10-2010, 09:45 AM   #13
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Actually this is the one and it's not even close to ren'd. Funny what good lighting will do for a picture.
The yellow is poorly painted original cabinetry.
I rather think the laminate and vinyl are hiding a poor sub floor, and its not finished too well either. The only thing in its favour right now are the (new) tires and body.
And the rest is what you have seen in my photos.

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Hmmmm

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Actually this is the one and it's not even close to ren'd. ...The only thing in its favour right now are the (new) tires and body.
And the rest is what you have seen in my photos.
Bex
...and the ad has had over 850 views and nobody else has bought it yet! That tells me it's either way overpriced and/or in overall poor condition...
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