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Old 12-01-2015, 11:28 AM   #15
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They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Is there anything particularly bothersome about this trailer?
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Old 12-01-2015, 11:35 AM   #16
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If your plan is a renovation then you have a blank canvas. Leave interior walls / windows in tact and design your dream trailer. Start from the bottom up (axle, solid floor, wiring, pex plumbing) This will take a while to complete but that's part of the experience. I now someone will provide you a diagram of a floor plan, use it as a guide. Its an old trailer and new technology exists. Take your time and do it right. It might cost a little more to update but in the end it will be worth it when you start camping. Also, new upgrades will play an important role during resale. Do research, talk to owners, look at designs and have fun.
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Old 12-01-2015, 11:35 AM   #17
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The cost and time required to restore a trailer is significant and even just getting an old intact trailer back up to snuff can be very costly and time consuming. The value of the final product can either be measured by pride in completing a project and showing it off at rallies and other events or by what someone will ultimately pay for the trailer if it is flip project. Pride can be a very valuable driving force. The financial side is a spreadsheet exercise. For me I would approach a project like that like any restoration or rehab project - get a number in your mind and then pretty much double it because that is where it will end up being in the end especially if you include the value of your sweat equity.
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Old 12-01-2015, 11:49 AM   #18
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If you buy it and change your mind I need a screen door for my Argosy. HollywoodBandB
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:00 PM   #19
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Have a look at Smokeless Joe's renovation of his 24' Argosy. I couldn't reload his post but it's titled "Contemporizing-1976-argosy-d-opinions-please". A very good read.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:33 PM   #20
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I read Smokeless Joe's thread as he was doing it and I have been rereading over the past couple of days. I am going to make a list of these major renovation threads so I can reread them all.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:52 PM   #21
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Here are two more pictures that the owner sent to me.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:53 PM   #22
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Did you get to look at the interior?

You asked, " Is there anything particularly bothersome about this trailer?"

Could be. The location of the rust. I would look up front, for evidence of a leak, that might have rotted the floor.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:58 PM   #23
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short563: If you want to KISS do what I did to my gutted 1958 Caravanner 22'. Too many changes to get into the "why" and not so obvious many advantages. Imagine your rig with this: 1. 40 milk jugs for water 2. replace propane tanks w/ dual fuel electric start generator 3. use 18 each 1 pound propane refillable bottles at point of use (refill w/ 20 pounder trade ins at many stores) 4. pressurized turkey fryer with air foot pump for shower w/ hand held sprayer 5. spare on rear bumper 6. heat with wood ( I also have a kerosene H 45 military tent heater) 7. Intec air couches fold opens to queen beds 8. House window air 9. card tables w/folding chairs 10. no step instead a fold down slant ramp 11. 10 stackable storage totes whose see thru sides fold open and 5 sit on each wheel well 12. 3.1 cu ft dual door frig. Note: By now you've figured out you leave the rig parked and resupply from covered cargo bed on tow vehicle 13. partitions of blankets hung with velcro and curtains match 14. Coleman propane and kerosene stoves w/ 1 fold open oven 15. 2 NuWave 110v 1,000 watt induction cook tops 16. fold down twin mattress at each end hinged at window base 17. cutting boards/prep counters fold up or down at side walls. 18. 2 foldable camp kitchens 19. sink hangs on wall 20. candles, kerosene and propane lanterns , 6v LED lanterns (4 D cells) and 110v lamps 21. unique solution to eliminate bathroom and grey/black tanks 22. 2 each 6V batteries, pure sine wave inverter, high tech multiple function battery charger 23. Viair 100% duty compressor w. small aluminum tank 24. Cuisinart 240 sq in gas grill 25. an 8" whirlygig on on each roof vent flipped over for OTR 26. foldable little red wagon to move stuff from cargo bed up the slant ramp and inside 27. kerosene and gas cans.
I chopped each spindle off my dexter 4400# axle - mounted to swing arms with air bags to lower Caravanner to flat on the ground or 11" lift for extreme off roading.
Virtually no complex systems/maintenance, cheap parts, everything can move outside under awning, sleep 6 and cook for 20, no limits on weather, open concept feels huge inside, and not really that inconvenient for living ( like an 1870 farmhouse sort of)
P.S. Made a 4.5 cu ft 4" walled ice chest too - ice lasts 2 weeks. 402 594 5161
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:03 PM   #24
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For comparison, here's the Argosy I bought a couple months ago outside of Tulsa, OK:

https://goo.gl/photos/UUDyTDYTdqgv5wHY8

I paid $2400 and we towed it home 45 miles on the tires it had on it. The interior is all original (I'll get some photos) and not in horrible shape. It smells like moth balls and has some signs that mice previously (or currently) inhabit it. The owner had it on his hunting lease for the last 3-4 years. The body is in pretty good shape, and we towed it easily behind our Armada. Our glass is pristine, and we liked the Pano windows up front. We have some surface rust on the steel endcaps (another difference between Argosys and traditional airstreams). The furnace and lights work (although I don't trust the furnace) but our fridge is shot, not sure about the water heater (assuming shot). One thing to note: On Argosy's the cabin is 2 feet shorter than the the length number, so the actual cabin on a 26 is only 24 feet. I think the total trailer length including cabin is around 26 feet.

We plan on spending another 10K on the renovation for it, and plan to do the vast majority of the work ourselves. From the research I've done on these forums that probably won't be enough to get it all the way we want it to be, but hopefully it will get us started. My wife is ridiculously handy (can sew, upholster, carpentry, basic electrical etc), and I'm not completely incompetent (not completely).

I have no illusions, and know its going to be a ton of hard work, but we love the idea of making it 'our own'. We aren't moving the toilet, bath tub, or tanks, but we are planning on significantly reworking the rest of the floor pan (2 sets of double bunks etc). Our goal is to be done by June of 2016 so that we can take the kids to some national parks (Park entrance fees are free next year for your family if you have a 4th grader).

We are planning on starting the demo in the next week or so....We'll definitely post photos.

There is a great 'checklist' for purchasing an airstream on this site, I'll try to find it and post it up. We didn't use it, but I would have if I'd known about it.
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:13 PM   #25
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Here's that checklist:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/atta...8&d=1215128295

It's definitely worth a look before you by.
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Old 12-01-2015, 08:01 PM   #26
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Doh...That link didn't work. Let's try this link for the checklist:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/atta...8&d=1215128295

Thanks,

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Old 12-01-2015, 08:42 PM   #27
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I would start with a shell that has windows in a location that you can live with rather than move them. It is more work than the trailer is worth to move the windows in this type of trailer. If it was me I'd plan on working around the windows and wheel wells that the trailer was built with. If the walls were crunched then it might make sense to move windows, otherwise the work involved just isn't worth it. Just my 2 cents! Leland
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Old 12-02-2015, 07:29 AM   #28
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If you are retired and got the time and energy- believe me you will need both and the price as right on the gutted Arg. then go for it and take time to plan it all out before you start. You can pop a few rivets if the Arg. has them like my AS Sovereign you can move wiring. Pluming runs down street side wall and can be easy to cover up. My AS has tracts that match the cure of the walls for mounting walls to the sides and you can purchase these a VTS or other vintage supply dealers. Finding good conditioned parts on this sight or other places is a huge help. We have a dealer that buys up manufactures scratch and dent stoves and what not. If you have the time, finding these types of things becomes half the fun of doing what your are thinking of doing. No you want ever sell for your time and labor but keep copies of all your purchase and your time to show a record of your work. This will help if you sell and most of all for insurance to show that you have a newer RV than the title shows to insure at better rate or just get insurance at all. I can not get a title for my 67 Sovereign in AL but one really helps out in the end. Go for it if you love this type of do it your self type of work. Keeps me sane in retirement for the second time. Ray B
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