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Old 04-17-2007, 05:20 PM   #1
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Friends:

Keeping in mind that the power inlet on my trailer has been moved to the front and that my 110v supply options (shore, inverter or generator) will all be truck-based, I don’t think I need an inverter in the trailer.

But I need

a good charger/converter

a good 12v distribution panel

a reasonably sized battery or battery bank


Can you offer me your suggestions; based either on what you’ve used or have heard is good/best out there?

Can you also explain how the converter is wired to the battery (batteries) and 12v distribution panel? In other words, how does the panel know when the 12v is coming from the converter, not the battery and visa versa?

I note that some converters have various amp ratings. How do I know which one I need?

We are installing the 110 AC panel by Blue Sea right now. It is very cool.

So, next, I have to get on with the above 12v things.

Any help you can offer is very much appreciated.

Thanks.

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Old 04-17-2007, 05:28 PM   #2
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Call Randy and Bestconverter.com and he'll help you out. He's a forums member too.

You can check here for a diagram of how it all goes together.

http://parallaxpower.com/Dist_Panl/FB%20Series.pdf
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:34 PM   #3
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Sergei,

I think the key think to notice in the wiring diagram just mentioned is that the positive 12volt side of things is all tied together. Fundamentally this means that there is only one 12volt source that you have to worry about.

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Old 04-20-2007, 07:21 PM   #4
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We have shore power!

Wendell Hill, who works at the Wiltsie shop, installed the new Blue Sea panel last night.

I’ll send a photo showing the cool LED lights and back lit signage in action soon.

No more extensions and plugs all over the place.......


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Old 04-24-2007, 04:56 PM   #5
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Ah, I think you'd mentioned they were LEDs previously. Not a problem exepct for times you leave the trailer parked for extened periods. Since you'll have a battery disconnect switch that shouldn't be a problem either. In fact the glow of the LEDs should act as a "battery OK" indicator for you. -Bernie
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:10 AM   #6
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12v side next

In #216 above I called for advice on 12v equipment; charger/converters, panels and batteries.

Safari Tim and Malconium contributed and Uwe, Lewster, Wabbiteer, Markdoane, Road King Moe and Bernie Hayden all gave good advice when answering PM’s.

Thanks to everyone.

Many recommended Randy at Best Converter and a ParaMode 4455TC with TempAssure is on the way.

In the next day or so I’ll order a BLUE SEA 12v distribution panel and battery Shut-off.

Things seem to be moving faster at this stage.


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Old 04-26-2007, 01:55 PM   #7
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Front completed

All the work at the trailer tongue has been completed now.

The Webasto TSL coolant heater has been fully enclosed in the small aluminum box.

The compressor for the LG split air unit is on it's aluminum stand.

The new Ultra Fab 3500 Electric Jack has been installed.

(There are no propane tanks on this Diesel Powered Trailer).

The equipment has been painted black to match the lower front wall of the trailer, which has already been painted black in that area only.

Most people following this know that the Argosy will be painted two tone white and black, to match my MINI.

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Old 04-26-2007, 02:59 PM   #8
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I've been watching your progress from the beginning and may I say that I feel so inadequate. I'm heading down to the lake tomorrow to give my Argosy a bath and repair the front curtains. I have new vinyl inserts for the outside but can't drill out a rivet to save my life. Guess some things will have to wait for the husband to come home. I'll do what I can and wish I could do what you've done. Mine is so plain and conventional compared to your show piece. Congratulations. Of course I have been having fun camping in mine all this time, so I got you there. More pictures please.
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Old 04-26-2007, 04:01 PM   #9
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I have new vinyl inserts for the outside but can't drill out a rivet to save my life. Guess some things will have to wait for the husband to come home.
If I remember right the end pieces for the side molding are pop rivets which are pretty easy to drill out since they already have a hole to center the drill bit. If you don't already have one I'd recommend a Dremel tool. They make drilling out rivets "a snap" so to speak. Curtains, now that's a complicated job -Bernie

PS. What color and where did you get the insert material for the Argosy? I've seen lots of discussion about red and blue for the Airstreams but nothing about Argosy inserts.
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:24 PM   #10
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I called my local Airstream man, who is really just a repair shop, but they ordered it directly from Airstream and a fraction of the price some other RV places had charged me before. There are two sizes on mine. The two mid stripes and then the lower large stripe. It's a snap to pop in. Now about those rivets. I have a dremel tool. What bit do I use? I've tried to drill them out with a drill and end up with a huge mess. As you can see I replaced this insert with the very expensive one, but it faded badly. Now I have new inserts from Airstream that I'm hoping will hold their color. I painted the end pieces which are metal. PM me if you need the name of the place that got me my inserts. He will be happy to ship them to you I know.
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Old 04-26-2007, 08:29 PM   #11
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Angry It does fade

Hello Juel.. I hate to tell you this but it does FADE... big time..Our came from Airstream, it was in only 6 months and it had faded considerably.. we are going to use black on our 30' Argosy when it is done... cream with charcoal grey on the bottom.
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:18 PM   #12
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Red is the most susceptible color to UV wash-out. I'm surprised that it lasted that long!
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Old 04-27-2007, 04:39 PM   #13
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Juel, Bernie,

I use a Dremel around the trailer from time to time. It’s very handy. Somehow I’d never thought to use it for drilling out rivets.

Juel, your trailer is a very, very nice one. I know because mine was once exactly like yours. I liked it so much that I decided to remake it in my own style, if you know what I mean.

We’ve roughed in the wardrobe / desk unit now. Soon we’ll mount the sliding doors on the unit and I’ll post more photos then.


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Old 04-30-2007, 09:02 PM   #14
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The aluminum hardware for the sliding doors at the wardrobe/desk combination is up now as are some of the frames for the gallery counter/cabinets.

The 12v fuse panel and the Bussmann circuit breaker, both by Blue Sea Systems, have arrived. When the charger/converter gets here we can start on the low voltage distribution system.

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