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RV H-D Lady · 10-05-2010, 01:41 PM

The drain is removed and it appears to be loose all around the top lip, but it's acting like it's glued or some how stuck to the floor. Is that possible?

RV H-D Lady · 10-07-2010, 06:09 AM

I guess they ARE glued down. I found this thread.....

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f446...val-22414.html

kennethowens · 10-07-2010, 08:26 AM

May I ask why your taking it out?

RV H-D Lady · 10-07-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kennethowens

May I ask why your taking it out?

To replace the rotted floor beneath it.

kennethowens · 10-08-2010, 07:05 AM

Follow up to my question:
Hmmm.....chisel and cut(the wood) and take the wood and all out at the same time.
You may have to drill a couple of holes beyond the perimeter to use as start points.

Once out, ya can clean the old adhesive off and have it ready for a first
class repair.

Ganglin · 10-08-2010, 08:05 AM

What shape is the pan in an Argosy - curved/square? May be able to find a replacement. Othewise, can you get under a leading edge at all? May be able to separate it slowly using a razor scraper:

QEP 4 in. Razor Scraper - 62900 at The Home Depot

RV H-D Lady · 10-08-2010, 02:55 PM

My Argosy shower is up against the back corner so it has a curve in it. It's not one of those nice squared corner, easy to replace ones. I'm going to try the method in the link I posted in my response #2. I bought a 3' x 1/8 X 1" wide piece of metal. I'm going to hammer to wedge it under the pan and hopefully scrape up the glue in the process. That's tomorrow mornings project. I'll report on my success or failure. = ) Cutting out the floor with the pan attached might be fun though.

Melody Ranch · 10-08-2010, 05:50 PM

Sally, I went thru your posts....I got lost as to when you got the Argosy. Reference your thread.....http://www.airforums.com/forums/f44/...89.html....and my post #11. Did you get this Argosy at Oasis? Did you have any indication or warning of the job you were taking on. Regardless, just keep at it and finish it up ....you will, WILL, appreciate the results. I just hate to see the things you now face. Lots of help here.

RV H-D Lady · 10-09-2010, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Melody Ranch

Sally, I went thru your posts....I got lost as to when you got the Argosy. Reference your thread.....http://www.airforums.com/forums/f44/...89.html....and my post #11. Did you get this Argosy at Oasis? Did you have any indication or warning of the job you were taking on. Regardless, just keep at it and finish it up ....you will, WILL, appreciate the results. I just hate to see the things you now face. Lots of help here.

Melody Ranch, I got the Argosy three weeks ago in Oklahoma. And no, I wasn't aware of ALL the work ahead of me, such as the 4" deep of rotted floor across the back. I'm convinced Airstreams were built assuming nothing would ever break or leak or need repaired or replaced. I'm trying to remove everything that needs to be removed that I can remove myself, with plans to hire someone to replace or rebuild most everything that needs to be rebuilt or replaced.
The air conditioner is really good as is the heater, water pump, stove/oven, awning, axles, tires, brakes, cabinets, all tambors, cushions and upholstry, windows and screens (except for the gaskets). The water lines were all updated, the propane tanks are good, it has a brand new battery and good spare tire. All the tanks appear to be good, too.
It does get frustrating when I can't even remove a few rusty screws. When I hit a wall I go to a project that I know I can do, and that keeps me going. If I ever sell my Harley and my Toy Hauler I will have lots more money to put into the Argosy.

Thanks for your words of encouragement. I really appreciate it.

RV H-D Lady · 10-09-2010, 05:54 PM

WAHOO!! I got the shower pan out.

It only took one length of metal strip hammered under the pan, then voila, it popped up. And here's some pictures of what's underneath....... It's not a very pretty. Guess I'll put in a new black tank while I'm at it.

tallytwo1994 · 10-09-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RV H-D Lady

WAHOO!! I got the shower pan out.

It only took one length of metal strip hammered under the pan, then voila, it popped up. And here's some pictures of what's underneath....... It's not a very pretty. Guess I'll put in a new black tank while I'm at it.

Yuck! But fixable.

Good Luck,
Carol

Bex · 10-10-2010, 08:09 AM

How did you determine the floor was rotted?

Bex

RV H-D Lady · 10-10-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bex

How did you determine the floor was rotted?

Bex

After I removed the toilet I found the base that the toilet had been sitting on was rotted out. when I removed all of that I could see behind the black tank and a small area behind the shower pan. The more stuff I removed the more rotted wood I found.

Aage · 10-10-2010, 08:25 PM

Here's another "how": How do you know your black tank is NG?

RV H-D Lady · 10-10-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aage

Here's another "how": How do you know your black tank is NG?

NG? does that mean No Good?

Because it's 33 years old. But I'm really just assuming.

Splitrock · 10-11-2010, 01:26 PM

If the tank doesn't cost too much and it's a good time to replace it, I'd replace it too and go forward with a new valve and something else crossed off the list.

Gary

RV H-D Lady · 10-11-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Splitrock

If the tank doesn't cost too much and it's a good time to replace it, I'd replace it too and go forward with a new valve and something else crossed off the list.

Gary

I need to replace the valve, so replacing the tank makes sense, until I price them maybe.

Gkiesel · 12-07-2010, 08:15 PM

If there's nothing wrong with it, why replace it. I would like to replace ours with a larger one, but that's no easy task i fear. Figured I'd wait until it was time to gut the bathroom. That day is coming. G

Aage · 12-07-2010, 08:35 PM

The thing is, the tanks are NEVER cheap. Well, so rarely it isn't funny. Be ready to take it out and test it: after a careful cleaning and close inspection for obvious stuff like holes or big cracks, place it on a stable footing and fill it up with water. Let it sit overnight to see if anything leaks out.

If it does leak, you need to decide to either throw it out and replace it, or see if it can be patched. Get back to us when you get to that part.

If it's good, next have a close hard look at the frame and supports it was sitting in. THIS is probably where you will have some work to do, as they will almost certainly be rotted out. There's a frame and a pan and probably hinges to check out.

Put your efforts into making that structure new again, and use the old tank if it is in good shape with no leaks. I agree that a new valve is important though. They have a definite life-span, and yours is over it, assuming it's original.

RV H-D Lady · 12-08-2010, 05:11 AM

Aage, my black tank sits right on top of the floor, with a platform built on top and around it. The toilet sits on top of the platform. The frame is not right under it and there are no hinges involved.
I was able to save the black tank. We filled up with water as much as possible, at all different angles, and soaked, soaked, soaked it. Strange stuff kept coming out with every soaking. When stuff stopped coming out we deemed it useable. We installed a new slide valves. The tank is now installed, and has been holding water for about a week now with no signs of leaking. = ) This has been a slow process, but we are seeing lots of progress now. We hope to take her on her maiden voyage on or about Jan 10th to Quartzsite, AZ.