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Old 04-19-2016, 10:13 PM   #1
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AS wheels work on Argosy?

Will these marathon tires and wheels that came off a new Airstream work on my '75 Argosy?
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Yes . Bolt pattern the same, 6x 5 1/2 . Just need to make sure the stud length on your drum is adequate . The alloys are thicker than the stock steel wheels . From the pictures it looks like you will be ok .
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How do I confirm the stud length in drum prior to purchasing...?


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Dan, As long as the bolt pattern and offset of the rims match up no problem. However, there have been many reports of issues with Chinese made Goodyear Marathon tires....FYI. Also the bolt pattern for even wheel studs applies here so you would measure across from center of stud to center of stud. Then check the new wheels from center of hole to center of hole. If they are both the same then the wheels will fit on your hub studs. Hopefully the rim size will match up too as 15",16"or 17" ! Stud length should not apply! Ed
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You could actually measure the studs with a ruler or tape measure, but in the picture of the steel wheel there seems to be plenty of stud left over/protruding past the lug nut.
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Your Argosy would have originally had wheel bolts instead of studs and lug nuts. If you have studs either they have been added or you have replacement brake drums. Ideally you could install a wheel before purchase and visually check that the studs go completely thru the lug nuts and also check inside clearance. You will probably need to buy extended chrome lug nuts since they are recessed on the allow wheels.

I installed factory alloy wheels (dated 2006) with 235-75-15 Michelin LTX tires on my 77 Argosy. I originally had the tires on the factory steel wagon spoke wheels and had no clearance issues. With the alloy wheels which are supposed to be the same offset and had so little clearance on the inside I could barely put my tire covers on and they rubbed on the inside when backing and parking. My Michelins are 235 cross section where the Marathons you are considering are most likely 225 and the Michelins have a lot more sidewall flex so you may not encounter any rubbing. I had to add 1/4" spacers to get more clearance and not rub.

The wheel bolts and standard lug nuts were also fully recessed into the wheel face with the alloy wheels and I could only get a thin wall socket on to tighten them. I installed studs in place of the bolts and longer chrome lug nuts so I could use a standard lug wrench. That was about 7,000 miles ago and I have had no problems since.
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AS wheels work on Argosy?

The marathon tires have me thinking twice now but, I want the wheels but need new tires.


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Marithon tires

If you decide to go with the Marithons, plan on driving 65 mph or less and make sure they are fully inflated and balanced. 65 is their MAX speed rating and under inflation causes overheating. Imbalance, excess speed and overheating all contribute to tread failure.

I would also check the date code on each tire before considering them. That is an oval with 4 numbers printed on the sidewall. The first 2 numbers correspond to the week they were made and he last 2 are the year they were made. I would not buy them if they are older than 2 years and plan on replacing them when they are 5 years from the date code.

My trailer is 6,000 lb loaded and I went with Michelin for several reasons. 1. my co-pilot (wife) likes to drive 75 mph when I am napping.
2. I have never read about tread failure on a Michelin,
3. The 15" LTX inflation is 50# where the Marathon is 80# so less stress on the trailer with my old axles.
4. Speed rating of 90+ mph. and
5. Over 2,000 # rating per tire x4 is more than adequate for my older lighter trailer.
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The Marathons will fail even if you drive less than 65 and keep them balanced.


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The Alloy wheels are still a good thing to upgrade to! I would ask the seller to just sell you the rims! Then you could purchase some new Michelin or even a good Light Truck D or E range rated tire. Ed
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You can buy Sendel Aluminum wheels for about $100. each if you are going to buy new tires anyway I would buy all new . You will need center caps and lug nuts too.
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I got lucky and bought my factory wheels at the Gillette International Rally flea market 2 years ago from someone who changed to 16" for $25 each with center caps! They were scratched and had some surface spider etching but after about 2 hours of polishing and buffing each they came out pretty good. I painted the backgrounds blue to match the trailer trim.
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I sold a set of those wheels when I got the 16" wheels and tires.
I polished them before I shipped them, but got $200 + $25 shipping from the buyer.
I wonder how his restoration is going or if he is done and camping.


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