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Old 05-19-2009, 01:58 PM   #1
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Has anyone also noticed the "rust" the grows
under the 10 running lights mounted on the
steel endcaps of an Argosy? When I went
to look under the fixture...I found that there
was a (one positive wire) setup with fixture based
ground. I wasn't content to use only the screw
to attain a good ground...so I cleaned the bottom
of the fixture with my pocket knife.
The wire itself would pull out a grand
distance of about 3/8". That short wire makes
a rather tough task. To clean or grind the rust
from under there, all I could gain was about 1/2 turn
per direction for cleaning purposes. After that, I ran
a thick bead of caulk(NOT SILICONE) to produce
a drip line....two beads actually, to include the top
of the lens's. Now the question, was the surface
under the running lights originally painted?
I found no evidence of paint under there. I defense
of the factory quality...I think it was the first cleaning
my Argosy has ever had....34 years aint bad!
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Old 05-19-2009, 02:41 PM   #2
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The whole end cap was painted then the lights were added. Yours has just rusted away the paint.
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:35 PM   #3
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A word of caution: Don't pull on those wires too hard as they are connected with bullet connectors under the end cap. If the wires pull out, you are in for taking the interior end cap off and plugging wires back in.
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Old 05-20-2009, 08:00 AM   #4
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I did not know about the "bullet connectors"....your word of caution is
taken. General fear led me to gently get my needed distance.
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Old 05-20-2009, 08:27 AM   #5
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I did not know about the "bullet connectors"....your word of caution is
taken. General fear led me to gently get my needed distance.
Those lights are pretty cheap to replace. You can get a set of them, snip the wire off the lights as close to the contact inside the light fixture, and use a butt-splice connector to hook the new light to the old wire. The red butt splice connectors will just fit through the holes in the end caps. You can then feed the new wire through the hole in the end cap, and attach the new lights with screws. Use a daub of Sikaflex or Vulkem to seal out water.
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:11 AM   #6
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That is good info.....Argosy owners....esp newbies...need the running lights
they have to work initially (to test the systems) and the rust issue can be the
cause of them not working and causing leakage. Many parts are out there to be
sure. Many folks, myself included, like to (repair, clean, seal) things if possible.
The plastic lens' suffer more than the fixture itself...why replace fixture?
At times the perfectionist view leaves the other with a mismatched response.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:18 AM   #7
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On our 76, the fixture totally shot. The sune had turned the white plastic housing into brittle powder. I replaced them with LED's. Way better. Now to rig up some LED Tailights.
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Those lights are pretty cheap to replace. You can get a set of them, snip the wire off the lights as close to the contact inside the light fixture, and use a butt-splice connector to hook the new light to the old wire. The red butt splice connectors will just fit through the holes in the end caps. You can then feed the new wire through the hole in the end cap, and attach the new lights with screws. Use a daub of Sikaflex or Vulkem to seal out water.
Excellent and knowing advice, Terry. I originally used roofing felt to seal under lights after I painted my endcaps. Then I changed it out for Sikaflex 221 -- love that stuff!

My '74 Argosy was bought out of Delaware. I don't know if it sat along the Delaware shore but I know it sat in salt spray! The roadside was much more heavily affected by frame rot.

On mine more of the galvanizing broke down at the lower edges. I refinished the end caps and the aluminum light castings. The two-bulb light units are very inexpensive. I found them in the trailer/RV section of my local farm-fleet store. And have seen them several places since. Look around.

There was 1-2" slack max in my wiring. I had to be careful as other posters are reporting.
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Old 05-22-2009, 07:45 AM   #9
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It is so nice when I plug the cord into the tow vehicle
and all 10 of those lights fire up. I noticed
a few new owners of Argosy's in this forum and thought they may
benifit from the information...those steel end caps are unique.
Oh yes, one more item, the dielectric grease that coats the
electrical connections......good stuff they used back then....after
all these years that slimey stuff is still doing it's job....old school
technology has some serious "Hang-Time".
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:29 PM   #10
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I replaced my clearance lights with LED when I repainted. Somewhere in the past, someone had changed the the lights and pulled the bullet connectors out on two corners. After trying to fish them out, I just fished a new wire over to the center and tied in there. Unless I end up with a short, it saves me having to pull the caps inside.

I'm looking to go LED on the tail lights also.....
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