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Old 11-15-2013, 02:08 PM   #1
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Argosy Sub Floors

So, a couple of years ago when I was first learning about Airstreams I visited a rally at Stone Mountain.
That’s when I first was introduced to the Argosy model.

I'm getting older but I think I remember the owner telling me that Argosy's had steel end caps and metal or aluminum subfloor not wood. And that was a good thing because it wouldn't rot. The downside was that the metal sub floor tended to sag between the joists of the steel frame which transfer to the floor covering a bit but not so much to be a concern.

As some point I remembering learning that some Argosy's had wood sub floors and some had aluminum and that if you’re going to purchase one it was a good idea to learn which one had which so that you can take that into consideration when evaluating a lead.

But a guy I'm in discussions with about a potential Argosy, (who seems fairly knowledgeable), says that all AS's, (Argosy's), included have wood sub floors.

Have I lost my mind or hearing?

Which guy is correct?
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:10 PM   #2
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All of the argosys that I have encountered either in person or via this forum have reported to have had wooden sub floors. I have not heard of any airstream with an entirely metal sub floor.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:18 PM   #3
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Only a subset of the Argosy Minuet series had the aluminum sandwich subfloors. All of the full-width Argosy trailers have a plywood subfloor like any other Airstream.
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:22 PM   #4
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I have one of each.
My 28ft 1974 has a wood floor. When I bought it, the floor had rotted in several places and had to be replaced. It is quite a job but I was up for the challenge.
My 1978 6.0 minuet (20ft) has the aluminum floor. The rid thing is noticeable. I did lay "snap together laminate floor" which did help a little with the high and low spots.

To the best of my knowledge the only Argosy's with aluminum floors are (some but not all) Minuet's made in 77, 78 and 79.
Keven (overlander64) knows a lot more about Argosy's than most of us. You may want to contact him with any questions.
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davca Argosy Sub Floors

Greetings davcarv!

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So, a couple of years ago when I was first learning about Airstreams I visited a rally at Stone Mountain.
That’s when I first was introduced to the Argosy model.

I'm getting older but I think I remember the owner telling me that Argosy's had steel end caps and metal or aluminum subfloor not wood. And that was a good thing because it wouldn't rot. The downside was that the metal sub floor tended to sag between the joists of the steel frame which transfer to the floor covering a bit but not so much to be a concern.

As some point I remembering learning that some Argosy's had wood sub floors and some had aluminum and that if you’re going to purchase one it was a good idea to learn which one had which so that you can take that into consideration when evaluating a lead.

But a guy I'm in discussions with about a potential Argosy, (who seems fairly knowledgeable), says that all AS's, (Argosy's), included have wood sub floors.

Have I lost my mind or hearing?

Which guy is correct?
As with Vintage Airstreams, there are very few absolutes with Vintage Argosy travel trailers. Most, but not all 1977-1979 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre trailers had composite aluminum floors; some, but far from all Argosy Minuet 6.7 Metre Minuets had composite aluminum floors; at this time, it appears that all of the 7.3 Metre Argosy Minuets had plywood floors. Given the fact that the Argosy travel trailers formed something of a "test-bed" for ideas that might be applied to Airstream products, it is possible that there may be a few standard width Argosys out there with aluminum composite floors (but I have never heard of any examples). The front and rear endcaps on Argosy travel trailers were nearly always galvanized steel; however, there have been several examples uncovered with fiberglass exterior endcaps . . . speculation has been set forward that these may have been replacements for damaged panels, but in at least one or two such examples the owner has evidence that the coach hasn't had any aftermarket bodywork.

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My 1988 29Ft is chip wood and the glue when wet gives up and reverts to chips.
The end caps are fiber glass.
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Greetings Wolfe!

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My 1988 29Ft is chip wood and the glue when wet gives up and reverts to chips.
The end caps are fiber glass.
The second generation Argosy Travel Trailers and a few Fifth Wheels (1986?-1988?) were different from the 1972-1979 Argosys in a number of ways, but the Argosy line was still something of a test-bed for Airstream. The "Square-Stream" concept was pioneered in the second generation Argosys as were some of the construction techniques such as oriented strand board and a few other features. I have very limited knowledge of the second generation Argosys as most of my time has been devoted to studying the first generation Argosy travel trailers. It is always good to learn more about the second generation of Argosy Travel Trailers!

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Hello all speaking of floors. i just bought a 79' Argosy. unscrewing the wood from the metal frames was a pain. we ended up just getting out the skill saw and cutting between the frames.
- i am a noob to this, so if i need to cut a piece of wood for the rounded corner of the trailer how would i do that. it seems like i really need a large protractor to get the degree.
-maybe if i could trace something and transfer it to wood, i have no idea please help.
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To unscrew all the e-bolts, I used an impact driver. I tried a regular old drill first but it just stripped the bolts. To make new floor patterns, I reassembled the cut up pieces of old sub floor and traced them. Good luck.
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