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Old 05-02-2007, 04:03 PM   #29
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I wasn't the one who painted VT. It was done by GSM Vehicles in Plattsburgh, NY. Rich Luhr had GSM do it. Rich is the one who got it from Terry (Overlander63). Rich is also the editor of Airstream Life magazine.

In person, I've never seen another Argosy painted in anything other than the traditional cream/white color yours is painted. And when it's freshly painted that color, I think they look awesome! I would imagine in hot southern climates it's the most practical color to choose as well.

Just recently, I saw in the Casini thread a couple of photos of a red Argosy. Some people have suggested I put flames on mine. And some people have even painted Airstreams. It's all good.
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:12 PM   #30
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I know of a white Argosy that looks very nice. I think I have pictures that I could email you if you want to PM me with your email address. This Argosy came from the same guy who sold me mine and has been completely redone by a retired pilot in Texas. It is awsome looking now.
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:52 PM   #31
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Denise, here's a picture of what your Argosy would look like if it was painted silver. This is on Inland RV's website, and they could even paint it for you.
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:57 PM   #32
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Try these sites for more Vintage Thunder!
Airstream Life's Photo Galleries at pbase.com
Project Vintage Thunder: 2004-07-18

and this one to see what Rich Luhr is up to on a daily basis
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Does anyone know how many 22 foot Argosy's were produced? Also does leaving the interior and exterior original increase the value? My fridge,stove etc... works for now. I was going to get all new appliances but wondered if it might hurt the value somewhat. Is the silver trailer above a Argosy painted silver or an Airstream? I can't tell. Thanks.
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Old 05-02-2007, 05:44 PM   #34
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I thought Airstreams and Argosy's could not leak.
Oh happy daze if that were the case! They ALL leak. Don't let anybody try to tell you differently. You are only kidding yourself if you think yours doesn't leak. And in this regard, I can tell you that GSM uses what's known as a "Sealtech 430R" to find skin leaks. It's a large squirrel cage fan that sits on the floor inside the trailer. It has a large diameter flexible duct connecting it to one of the ceiling vents. It draws in large volumes of air into the trailer and exerts a small positive pressure inside the trailer. All windows and doors are closed during the test. They spray a soapy solution all over the exterior skin, including every rivet. As the testing goes on, you check for bubbles forming around joints, etc. and mark for caulking after thetrailer is washed off and dry.

P.S. Here's another one of my favorite sites: theVAP - The Vintage Airstream Podcast - Home
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Please keep in mind that you will never get out of your trailer what you put in to it in money or hard work. Most of us re-do these because we want them and love them. Sometimes we find we need something smaller or bigger and let our baby go to a new home; however, very few of us spend our money and time with the next owner in mind. Do what makes you comfortable and what you will enjoy using. As long as you don't paint the inside pink or purple and take out the bathroom or kitchen, you will probably have a trailer you can resell down the road. Just use your good taste and all should be well. Remember, if you really don't like this Argosy and you are putting money in it with the thought that you can resell it for a profit, you should probably let it go right now and get you something that will make you happy. Old Airstreams are a continual labor of love and money. It's an addiction that you cannot give up.
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Is the silver trailer above a Argosy painted silver or an Airstream? I can't tell. Thanks.
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Does anyone know how many 22 foot Argosy's were produced? Also does leaving the interior and exterior original increase the value? My fridge,stove etc... works for now. I was going to get all new appliances but wondered if it might hurt the value somewhat. Is the silver trailer above a Argosy painted silver or an Airstream? I can't tell. Thanks.
Leaving the trailer all original is only important if you are going to have a concours winner. Some mods do destroy a trailer's value when they render the trailer less campable, or less safe. There are some mods that are just plain wrong. You can rehab your trailer with new appliances and equipment, as long as it is well done it won't hurt, and may help, if you ever decide to sell.
Things that would enhance the campability and dependability would also enhance the value. For instance, a new stove/range, a new LP/electric fridge, a new air conditioner, new awning, new paint, new axles, new window gaskets, new flooring (vinyl or carpet, tile is a huge no-no). Since your coach has the big wrap around windows, I would strongly suggest you look into a rock guard for the front windows, like the one shown in the painted Airstream above. The wrap around windows are no longer available in clear glass, and replacements cost almost as much as the rock guard. BTW, You can tell it is an Airstream and not an Argosy because there are three segments on the front end cap, an Argosy would only have one.
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Denise, here's a picture of what your Argosy would look like if it was painted silver. This is on Inland RV's website, and they could even paint it for you.
Uh .... Terry? Was there ever an Argosy produced with front windows like that? I don't have an answer here but I always assumed an Argo had full pano windows. I don't love to be proved wrong but don't mind being proved stupid.
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Uh .... Terry? Was there ever an Argosy produced with front windows like that? I don't have an answer here but I always assumed an Argo had full pano windows. I don't love to be proved wrong but don't mind being proved stupid.
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BTW, You can tell it is an Airstream and not an Argosy because there are three segments on the front end cap, an Argosy would only have one.
For a novice, one silver trailer looks much like another, but I'll bet in another month she will be telling us what year Airstream that is in the picture...
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Old 05-02-2007, 07:23 PM   #40
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The Argosy pictured below was at the WBCCI International Rally (1999) in Dayton, OH. It was one of the first that I encountered painted in something other than the original color scheme. I believe that the color was a Cadillac Pearl Color -- Lilac Mist. It was quite impressive and looked very luxurious with its custom paint job.

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Denise -- While we're on this topic. I've seen asking prices for fully restored similar era Airstreams (not truly the vintage years) upward of $10K -- and asking prices for repainted Argos for the same price. I'm not personally knowledgeable of any Argo owner receiving that unless it was a honey of a job.

I believe for every dollar you have put into this (~$6K per your accounting), it will be great to receive three-quarters of that in return if you tried to sell. Investing more money and expecting a return -- I don't know if investing to make it more "saleable" is wise. If you fix this up and enjoy using it for some years, then I'd say it is money very well spent. Unless you receive some very strong evaluation (get some help) and approval before another vintage purchase, you may end up in the same position of disappointment. eBay might have the occasional good Airstream (prove it!) but otherwise it is an easy way for a previous owner (PO) to unload an albatross. Unfortunately most eBay sales must close before a volunteer can give you the time to help you with what you're looking at. Recall that a volunteer doesn't need any liability over your decisions -- it still must be your decision.

Could you buy a Airstream/Argosy requiring less restoration? I don't know -- we haven't been thru actual systems details of this one. Any 30 year old trailer will be a garage queen for 1-2 years before being ready for the road. If you are looking to head out this summer I would recommend ignoring eBay and checking 10-15 year old Airstreams at the classifieds here or over at the Vintage Airstream Club. Airstreams aren't a precious metal that will not deteriorate for centuries.

A 1975 Plymouth Fury will need an awful lot of work before you'd feel comfortable driving it 2, 4 or 6 states away. Same with an Airstream/Argosy although the mechanical systems are not quite as complex. Consider looking for a while (eg, an early 90s pre-widebody) if you want something affordable for a dealer or mechanic to put back together. But ... you would still appreciate using this Argosy very much if you did aim to deal with it.
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