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Old 08-05-2008, 06:45 PM   #43
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Is there any soft spots under the tank? Have you discovered any leaks in the tank that would account for the moisture on the floor?
There is an isolated soft spot (10" x 10") under the water fill. No, I haven't looked for leaks yet.

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Then again our tanks are under slung under the floor in the belly pan. Where are the tanks in the Argosy?
The fresh water tank is on top of the floor just forward of the gaucho.

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How close are you to having her camp ready and have you name her yet? Our '87 is Savannah and our '06 is Katarina.
That's a good question. I have all the parts to fix the plumbing issues that I know of...I'm working that now.

I have all the parts to redo the windows except for the Super Weatherstrip Adhesive...I'll work the windows when I find the adhesive. Can anyone tell me where to get it locally. Home Depot did not have it.

I purchased two vent pipe covers from Inland...they're in the mail.

I purchased 24 lug studs and 24 lug nuts from Prestige Wheel...they're in the mail. I'll repack the wheel bearings when I do that job.

I found a suitable remnant for the gaucho for $4/yard. Then dropped it all off with the most reasonable upholsterer...I'll have that back on Friday.

The first camping trip is planned for next Saturday...I'm feeling the pinch.

Her name is Lucy, hence the title of this thread.

Thanks for asking.
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Old 08-05-2008, 07:25 PM   #44
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There is an isolated soft spot (10" x 10") under the water fill. No, I haven't looked for leaks yet.
Look at Minwax wood hardener, available at Home Depot; it stinks a lot, but works like a charm. The smell dissipates pretty quick.

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The fresh water tank is on top of the floor just forward of the gaucho.
Take a look outside the trailer at the trim that covers where the trailer body meets the lower wrap. Make sure there are no gaps that may introduce water. The basic construction of Airstreams and Argosys are conducive to leaks. The body of the trailer is set on the floor and the belly pan and wrap are installed next and overlap the trailer body on the outside. So any water running down the trailer body will find a gap and end up inside the trailer or bellypan.

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That's a good question. I have all the parts to fix the plumbing issues that I know of...I'm working that now.
Did you get a new pump, or are you rebuilding the original?
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I have all the parts to redo the windows except for the Super Weatherstrip Adhesive...I'll work the windows when I find the adhesive. Can anyone tell me where to get it locally. Home Depot did not have it.

I purchased two vent pipe covers from Inland...they're in the mail.

I purchased 24 lug studs and 24 lug nuts from Prestige Wheel...they're in the mail. I'll repack the wheel bearings when I do that job.

I found a suitable remnant for the gaucho for $4/yard. Then dropped it all off with the most reasonable upholsterer...I'll have that back on Friday.

The first camping trip is planned for next Saturday...I'm feeling the pinch.
Well it looks like you have everything in line, now it is just a matter of finding the time, right?

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Her name is Lucy, hence the title of this thread.

DOHHHH!!!!
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Thanks for asking.
You're welcome.
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:00 PM   #45
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Look at Minwax wood hardener, available at Home Depot; it stinks a lot, but works like a charm. The smell dissipates pretty quick.
I'll pick it up tomorrow.

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Take a look outside the trailer at the trim that covers where the trailer body meets the lower wrap. Make sure there are no gaps that may introduce water.
I see a gap that looks just partially filled with silicone and coincidentally right near the filler cap.

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Did you get a new pump, or are you rebuilding the original?
I'm going to wait to get the plumbing back together to see if it works.

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Well it looks like you have everything in line, now it is just a matter of finding the time, right?
Oh, and I need to get to DMV to get it registered.

What about the Super Weatherstip Adhesive...any leads?...or perhaps a Home Depot alternative?
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Try an auto supply store for the adhesive.
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I see a gap that looks just partially filled with silicone and coincidentally right near the filler cap.
Duff,
GET RID OF THE SILICONE!!! And replace with the correct sealant. Silicone seems to be a no-no on RV's. Do a Google search for...

silicone site:www.airforums.com

and you will find LOTS of threads cursing the stuff and the correct sealant to use...parbond / vulkem.

Good luck at the DMV.
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My 2 cents... the moisture could be from the front window... driving through rain could force the water through, and sit under the freshwater tank? Other than a leak from the tank (which I think unlikely), the window is my thought... or, leaking from the fresh water intake hose which might be cracked?
Checking in from Europe! (No AS noted around here...)
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My 2 cents... the moisture could be from the front window... driving through rain could force the water through, and sit under the freshwater tank? Other than a leak from the tank (which I think unlikely), the window is my thought... or, leaking from the fresh water intake hose which might be cracked?
Checking in from Europe! (No AS noted around here...)
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...but again, it's been sitting under a carport for 4 weeks. In light of the DEITZ's silicone comment I went out and looked the trailer over for gaps and what they are filled with. It looks like I have a combination of silicone (which is easy to spot) and some other stuff which looks more yellowish and not spongy like silicone. Based on what I've read I need to remove all silicone and replace with Vulkem or Parr Bond...but based on the volume of sealing I'll be doing I'll probably choose the Vulkem (comes in big tube).

I also saw some silicone remover on the Vintage Trailer Parts website. Does anyone have experience with that?...or can I make do with something from Home Depot?

Thanks for checking in from across the pond! Remember...drink "bottled" water...I've learned that lesson twice already!
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I also saw some silicone remover on the Vintage Trailer Parts website. Does anyone have experience with that?...or can I make do with something from Home Depot?
I haven't used the remover from VTS but what I stock in my hardware store does soften the silicone but you still have to scrape it off. That stuff a b*t*h!
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Any status / progress update? I hope everything is going smoothly.
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Any status / progress update? I hope everything is going smoothly.
Progess?...yes, albeit slow. I received the gaucho back from the upholsterer today, I think it looks great...I definitely maintained the retro feel of a vintage coach. I'll show that to you once I finish working the front floor.

I also applied the MinWax Floor Hardener to the soft areas of the floor today...we'll see how that feels once it cures.

I removed the kitchen window in preparation for new guides, fuzzy seal, and D-seal. I had forgotten that I gave my rivet gun to somebody a while back (never thought I'd need it) so I need to go get another one now that I have this project.

I've attached a picture of the sealant used above all six windows on my rig. I'm not sure what it is but it doesn't look like silicone.

I also attached a picture of the seam under the fresh water fill where I think rain water was getting in. I noticed that there is a popped rivet on the metal wrap (what are those metal wrap around bands called?) that's allowing the separation. I'm assuming the correct course of action is to replace the rivet and then seal with Vulkem or Parr Bond (both of which I happened to purchase from my local Airstream dealer in Waterbury, CT, last Friday).
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Progess?...yes, albeit slow. I received the gaucho back from the upholsterer today, I think it looks great...I definitely maintained the retro feel of a vintage coach. I'll show that to you once I finish working the front floor.


Can’t wait to see the pictures.

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I also applied the MinWax Floor Hardener to the soft areas of the floor today...we'll see how that feels once it cures.


You may need two applications. I had a soft spot under the city water line in our ’87 about the size of a hard ball and I used two cans in the entire compartment and it is as hard as stone now.

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I removed the kitchen window in preparation for new guides, fuzzy seal, and D-seal. I had forgotten that I gave my rivet gun to somebody a while back (never thought I'd need it) so I need to go get another one now that I have this project.


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I've attached a picture of the sealant used above all six windows on my rig. I'm not sure what it is but it doesn't look like silicone.


That is the factory vulkem I believe. You can remove and re-seal them with new vulkem, but if they aren’t leaking then you may also want to leave them alone.

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I also attached a picture of the seam under the fresh water fill where I think rain water was getting in. I noticed that there is a popped rivet on the metal wrap (what are those metal wrap around bands called?) that's allowing the separation. I'm assuming the correct course of action is to replace the rivet and then seal with Vulkem or Parr Bond (both of which I happened to purchase from my local Airstream dealer in Waterbury, CT, last Friday).


This is most definitely where you are getting water leakage. Get that rivet replaced and then seal the gap. The trim strip is called the lower rub strip. The corners are called banana wraps and curved sections under the rub strip are called the lower wrap which extend down to the belly pan.
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Lug Nuts Backordered

Hi all, just a quick question. The lug nuts I had ordered for my Argosy were backordered. At the time I thought it was prudent to buy the bulge type acorn nuts for the extra strength they provide. Now that they're backordered I'm wondering if I should find an alternate supplier for the bulge type nuts or just go with the standard conical seat acorn nut.

Any thoughts?

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Duff,
I think the conical lugs would be OK for Lucy.

I saw in another thread that you are dragging you heals on your project. Well this is you daily dose of encouragement to get out there and get Lucy into camping trim
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Rivets and Vent Pipe Covers

Whew!...it's been a while since I've touched this thing. I was away on vacation up on Campobello Island in Canada. It was supposed to be the inaugural trip with Lucy but that didn't materialize. I saw an endless number of SOB's during the drive (~1000 miles round trip) but not a single Airstream...not ONE! I find that amazing. Anyway, onto the task at hand.

What size rivets are used to fasten the rub strip? I have 1/8" and they don't seem to fit, but maybe the head popped off the rivet leaving the shank in the hole and I need to drill it out before fitting the rivet.

Has anyone experience with the replacement vent pipe covers? They are not the same size as the originals and am wondering what is the best way to proceed. Should I just a) fill in the old holes, b) center the new cover, c) mark the new holes, d) drill out new holes and e) install the new cover?

I finally fixed the copper lines under the kitchen sink and tried filling the lines with water. I had two geysers spewing from the water heater. I flipped the handle on one and it stopped but I couldn't budge the other little T-handle. I'm not familiar with the components of the water heater so I don't know how to describe it. I'll try to post a picture later.
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