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Old 02-20-2013, 03:36 PM   #1
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We are going to look at a Minuet that is quite a distance from home. What size is the ball for that size trailer and do they come with a standard wiring plug for the truck?
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:43 PM   #2
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2 5/16 ball. The lights/brake wiring of that era used a round pin connector, 7 wire, and some differences in the color coding of the specific wires. However, in the years since the trailer was made, who knows what you will find has been done to the plug.

Your tow vehicle, if fairly new and equipped with a 7 wire plug probably uses a "bargman type" 7 wire flat pin plug.

Again, lots of changes could have been made by previous owners. If you want to buy it and tow it home, be prepared to do some field work to make it electrically work with what you are towing with.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:52 PM   #3
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Greetings bebling!

Welcome to the Forums and the world of First Generation Argosys!

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We are going to look at a Minuet that is quite a distance from home. What size is the ball for that size trailer and do they come with a standard wiring plug for the truck?
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The 7.3 Argosy Minuet is among the least common of the three Minuets (6.0, 6.7, and 7.3 Metres). It shares its 2 5/16" coupler with the balance of the Minuet and Argosy lines.



As can be seen in the above literature, your tow vehicle will need to have a hitch rated for at least 3,820 pounds and a hitch weight of at least 510 pounds. In all probability the hitch height will be around 17", but the original hitch height started out around 19", and with the drop experienced as the Henschen DuraTorque axles wear . . . the current height for level towing is likely to be somewhere between 16" and 18".

Originally, the Minuet was likely equipped with a Bargman 7-Pin round trailer connector. Personally, I have found this type of connector to have superior corrossion resistance when compared to the modern 7-Blade RV connectors. Should the Minuet have its original connector it is unlikely to match the current industry standard wiring schematic. During this time period, Airstream and Argosy utilized a unique schematic with wire function/color relationships that also do not match current industry standard. I am attaching a pdf of the wiring schematic that was utilized during the period from 1977 through 1979 when the Argosy Minuets were manufactured.

As a cautionary note, when towing one of these coaches home please be aware that the clear deep-wrap wing windows (the side windows in the front Panoramic Windows) are no longer available as new replacements. Should one of these windows be broken, the only source for a clear glass replacement is from a salvaged Argosy . . . a new window can be sourced from Airstream, but it will be Solar Gray Tinted as are the Panoramic Windows in the new Airstreams. There have been several new Argosy owners who have lost one of these windows on their first tow so caution on roads with loose gravel is advisable if there arent' rock guards on the Panoramic front windows.

Good luck with your investigation!

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Old 02-20-2013, 10:27 PM   #4
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Wow! And I only thought I had to worry about wiring,tires,snow and ice! Now I will be freaked about breaking a window made of "unobtanium". It is about a 350 mile tow home and although I have towed large sailboats, camp trailers are a new experience for me. I have read as much as I could about evaluating a trailor, but have not been able to find a good checklist. I figure I will do the best I can with the time allowed and hope for the best. Thanks for all your help; the wiring diagram should be very useful. We leave Friday and will keep the forum posted on our adventure.
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Wow! And I only thought I had to worry about wiring,tires,snow and ice! Now I will be freaked about breaking a window made of "unobtanium". It is about a 350 mile tow home and although I have towed large sailboats, camp trailers are a new experience for me. I have read as much as I could about evaluating a trailor, but have not been able to find a good checklist. I figure I will do the best I can with the time allowed and hope for the best. Thanks for all your help; the wiring diagram should be very useful. We leave Friday and will keep the forum posted on our adventure.
There is a comprehensive trailer inspector's checklist here on the Forums . . . you can find that checklist at this link. You may find an article that I wrote on retrieving "as found" Airstreams/Arogsys at this link.

Should you decide that you would like to add a little temporary protection for the windows during the tow home, you could cover the deep-wrap wing windows with one or two layers of heavy cardboard with gorilla or duct tape to secure . . . just be sure to remove the tape as soon as possible upon your arrival at home.

Good luck with your investigation!

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As a last resort, get some heavy card board box material. Tape some bubble wrap to the back of it. Then tape it to the front, over the windows. It will look like a Redneck fix. But if it prevents a broken window. That's all that matters.
Make sure the door does not come open on the trip. There are numerous ways shown here on how to prevent it.
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Thanks I will give that a try!
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:31 PM   #8
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We just returned from a whirlwind trip to the mountains of northern California to look over the 7.3 Minuet. The trailer was in great, original condition and we ended purchasing the trailer. We will have to return in a week or so with the truck to bring her home.
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New 7.3 Minuet from the mountains of California

Photo of our new Minuet in the snow
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Greetings bebling!

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That is an exceptionally nice 7.3 Metre Minuet. It is one of the firstr that I have seen with the Sky Blue color scheme. My notes indicate that it was a new color scheme for 1979, and I haven't seen many Minuets with that color. It also looks like the coach also has two other rather unusual options . . . the front dinette and the center double-bed. It is unusual to find an Argosy with both of those options.

I am certain that you will enjoy your Minuet!

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Windows

I have yet to see one online with a window in the door along with the window just forward of the door. How common is this setup?
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It looks like you did very, very well! If I remember correctly from looking at the brochures (as always, thanks for Overlander64 for posting them), that window was a 1979-only feature.

Congrats on the new trailer!

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